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		<title>Comment on &#8220;A Call To Boobs&#8221; by Colette</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2008/08/19/a-call-to-boobs/#comment-164375</link>
		<dc:creator>Colette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Basically, find a good bra store (i.e. a store that specializes in fitting bras, not a chain if possible) and get them to help you.  I found a place that has super-expensive bras ($200 each) but it is totally worth it, because they don't stretch/break in 3 months and they fit properly.  The one I'm wearing today I bought almost a year ago &#38; I've worn it probably 1/3 of the time since then.  I love it - it is very comfortable, and it's cute as well.

About the "rib cage measurement + 5" rule - forget the +5.  Just go with your rib cage measurement.  The band will be hard to do up at first - you'll only be able to do up the first set of hooks.  That's what's supposed to happen.

Personally, I've tried buying bras over the internet, but they tend to be wasted money because they don't fit properly.  Find a local place that knows how to fit bras, and spend your money there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basically, find a good bra store (i.e. a store that specializes in fitting bras, not a chain if possible) and get them to help you.  I found a place that has super-expensive bras ($200 each) but it is totally worth it, because they don&#8217;t stretch/break in 3 months and they fit properly.  The one I&#8217;m wearing today I bought almost a year ago &amp; I&#8217;ve worn it probably 1/3 of the time since then.  I love it - it is very comfortable, and it&#8217;s cute as well.</p>
<p>About the &#8220;rib cage measurement + 5&#8243; rule - forget the +5.  Just go with your rib cage measurement.  The band will be hard to do up at first - you&#8217;ll only be able to do up the first set of hooks.  That&#8217;s what&#8217;s supposed to happen.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;ve tried buying bras over the internet, but they tend to be wasted money because they don&#8217;t fit properly.  Find a local place that knows how to fit bras, and spend your money there.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;A Call To Boobs&#8221; by Connie</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2008/08/19/a-call-to-boobs/#comment-164373</link>
		<dc:creator>Connie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I highly recommend a fitting.  The is a shop in Dallas named "The Maddox Shop".  Everything they fit me in worked great.  I haven't been in years and haven't found a bra that worked like theirs.  Funny story.  The little German lady that was "old" when I was fifteen and she fitted me-- also helped me when I was 30.  Mental note to self:  must travel the 40 miles to buy bras</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I highly recommend a fitting.  The is a shop in Dallas named &#8220;The Maddox Shop&#8221;.  Everything they fit me in worked great.  I haven&#8217;t been in years and haven&#8217;t found a bra that worked like theirs.  Funny story.  The little German lady that was &#8220;old&#8221; when I was fifteen and she fitted me&#8211; also helped me when I was 30.  Mental note to self:  must travel the 40 miles to buy bras</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;A Call To Boobs&#8221; by Corinna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corinna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh my god I wrote a novel here. I hate being a thread whore so I decided to post it at my own site. 

E Pluribus Boobie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh my god I wrote a novel here. I hate being a thread whore so I decided to post it at my own site. </p>
<p>E Pluribus Boobie</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;A Call To Boobs&#8221; by Becky</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2008/08/19/a-call-to-boobs/#comment-164353</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This bra: http://www.figleaves.com/us/product.asp?product_id=FE-4520 changed my life.  Seriously.  If you can afford $50 for a bra, I can't recommend it highly enough.  I would try a 34E in it (the band stretches out quite a bit, so if it's snug on the largest hook, that's a good fit).

&lt;i&gt;Does anyone else follow the rule of (a) measure around your chest (minus boobs) and add 5 for the band size and then (b) measure around the boobs, subtract band size, and calculate cup from there? If so, does it work for you?&lt;/i&gt;

No, that rule is all wrong.  I have no idea why people recommend it.   I actually wouldn't recommend measuring at all, just try on a bunch of bras until you find one that meets the guidelines in Rebecka's post.

&lt;i&gt;it is a crazy stripper bra. (Pink see-through with orange ribbons.&lt;/i&gt;

Haha, I think I have that bra.  I rarely wear it though, because the band is too big (despite being the same size that normally fits me in that brand.  You would think a 36" band would be 36" across all manufacturers and models, but noooo.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This bra: <a href="http://www.figleaves.com/us/product.asp?product_id=FE-4520" rel="nofollow">http://www.figleaves.com/us/product.asp?product_id=FE-4520</a> changed my life.  Seriously.  If you can afford $50 for a bra, I can&#8217;t recommend it highly enough.  I would try a 34E in it (the band stretches out quite a bit, so if it&#8217;s snug on the largest hook, that&#8217;s a good fit).</p>
<p><i>Does anyone else follow the rule of (a) measure around your chest (minus boobs) and add 5 for the band size and then (b) measure around the boobs, subtract band size, and calculate cup from there? If so, does it work for you?</i></p>
<p>No, that rule is all wrong.  I have no idea why people recommend it.   I actually wouldn&#8217;t recommend measuring at all, just try on a bunch of bras until you find one that meets the guidelines in Rebecka&#8217;s post.</p>
<p><i>it is a crazy stripper bra. (Pink see-through with orange ribbons.</i></p>
<p>Haha, I think I have that bra.  I rarely wear it though, because the band is too big (despite being the same size that normally fits me in that brand.  You would think a 36&#8243; band would be 36&#8243; across all manufacturers and models, but noooo.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;A Call To Boobs&#8221; by Sara A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My boobs have two different personalities with one side perky and the other kind of droopy... the best bra that i have found that lifts the long one with out hurting the perky one are the cotton Cacique bras. They are super comfy and don't stretch out or pinch or anything and I've had them for almost a year now. I love them and my only complaint about them is that they aren't prettier, but they don't itch and in terms of bounce control they're about a level or two below sports bra. 

My best advice on bra shopping is to go to a department store's lingerie department and try on every bra they carry in your size and sizes close to your size (ie I'm a 40D so I've tried 42D, 40C, 38D, 38DD, 42B, etc) and evaluate which size you can close on the middle hook and feels most comfortable and enables the most jumping. Then if it isn't too much for your budget, buy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My boobs have two different personalities with one side perky and the other kind of droopy&#8230; the best bra that i have found that lifts the long one with out hurting the perky one are the cotton Cacique bras. They are super comfy and don&#8217;t stretch out or pinch or anything and I&#8217;ve had them for almost a year now. I love them and my only complaint about them is that they aren&#8217;t prettier, but they don&#8217;t itch and in terms of bounce control they&#8217;re about a level or two below sports bra. </p>
<p>My best advice on bra shopping is to go to a department store&#8217;s lingerie department and try on every bra they carry in your size and sizes close to your size (ie I&#8217;m a 40D so I&#8217;ve tried 42D, 40C, 38D, 38DD, 42B, etc) and evaluate which size you can close on the middle hook and feels most comfortable and enables the most jumping. Then if it isn&#8217;t too much for your budget, buy it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Such A Pretty Face!&#8221; by Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2008/08/14/such-a-pretty-face/#comment-164323</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this thread is old now, but I wanted to respond because of the anger that seems to be evident in There'smore's response to me. 

I don't care what your taste in women is. Really. You can like women with purple left toenails who only wear clothes on Thursdays, I really do not care. Nor should I: it's none of my business. As for how you explain it, it's true, I don't have to approve of it and you don't have to care whether I do or not.

But let me say this: I can't know anything about you other than what you put on this page. Nor can anyone else who reads it. Whoever you are, and whatever your story is, your initial comment echoes words that are used (by women as well as by men) to keep women in their place in the beauty hierarchy. You may not have meant that--in fact you can even disagree with me that "most people" would see that in your comment. But you can't tell me that  your comment didn't provoke that reaction in me. Maybe it's just me, and it's entirely your prerogative to not give a flying f*ck what I think. But this is a big world and the chances that I am the only one who would see your comment that way are, in my opinion, small. Of course, even if that's true, it's STILL your prerogative not to give a flying f*ck.

But three things: 1) women participate in the awful, damaging "rating" of other women as well as men--the patriarchy (for lack of a better word) is not held up exclusively by the menfolk, so the fact that you are a woman really changes nothing about what I have to say.

2) I am used to being rated, all the time, everywhere, believe me. But being used to something and accepting it as "OK" are two very different things. I try to do something about it even if my only tool is a teaspoon.

3) You said: And, being a plus sized woman I am very aware of the long standing expectations of not only women but fat women and I don’t understand how anyone would feel the need to school anyone else on that struggle

Well, the answer is I DON'T feel the need to school you on that struggle. I feel the need to tell you how your comment came across to me, knowing nothing about you. All I could comment on was your words on the screen, not your experiences or anything else about you. And, as far as I am concerned, your "awareness" was not effectively communicated by your words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this thread is old now, but I wanted to respond because of the anger that seems to be evident in There&#8217;smore&#8217;s response to me. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care what your taste in women is. Really. You can like women with purple left toenails who only wear clothes on Thursdays, I really do not care. Nor should I: it&#8217;s none of my business. As for how you explain it, it&#8217;s true, I don&#8217;t have to approve of it and you don&#8217;t have to care whether I do or not.</p>
<p>But let me say this: I can&#8217;t know anything about you other than what you put on this page. Nor can anyone else who reads it. Whoever you are, and whatever your story is, your initial comment echoes words that are used (by women as well as by men) to keep women in their place in the beauty hierarchy. You may not have meant that&#8211;in fact you can even disagree with me that &#8220;most people&#8221; would see that in your comment. But you can&#8217;t tell me that  your comment didn&#8217;t provoke that reaction in me. Maybe it&#8217;s just me, and it&#8217;s entirely your prerogative to not give a flying f*ck what I think. But this is a big world and the chances that I am the only one who would see your comment that way are, in my opinion, small. Of course, even if that&#8217;s true, it&#8217;s STILL your prerogative not to give a flying f*ck.</p>
<p>But three things: 1) women participate in the awful, damaging &#8220;rating&#8221; of other women as well as men&#8211;the patriarchy (for lack of a better word) is not held up exclusively by the menfolk, so the fact that you are a woman really changes nothing about what I have to say.</p>
<p>2) I am used to being rated, all the time, everywhere, believe me. But being used to something and accepting it as &#8220;OK&#8221; are two very different things. I try to do something about it even if my only tool is a teaspoon.</p>
<p>3) You said: And, being a plus sized woman I am very aware of the long standing expectations of not only women but fat women and I don’t understand how anyone would feel the need to school anyone else on that struggle</p>
<p>Well, the answer is I DON&#8217;T feel the need to school you on that struggle. I feel the need to tell you how your comment came across to me, knowing nothing about you. All I could comment on was your words on the screen, not your experiences or anything else about you. And, as far as I am concerned, your &#8220;awareness&#8221; was not effectively communicated by your words.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;A Call To Boobs&#8221; by Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Sorry if this duplicates - I've gotten error messages with it, but it never posted. I'm trying it without html in case that's the problem]

http://www.herroom.com/

I LOVE it. The majority of bras that really fit me are british (and they don't often go above a 40 band size, which sucks, but bra extenders aren't that horrible.) For the original questioner, I think that they'd be her best bet, since they have a lot of variety in style for the smaller band/larger cup folks. 

See - cute!
http://www.herroom.com/Felina-7975-Victoria-Full-Glamour-Semi-Demi--Bra.shtml

Herroom has good return policies, though there's not free shipping, so that's an issue. They do offer measurement charts for each manufacturer, but I recently tried a bunch of new styles, and had to send them all back to get new sizes, since fit is so nefarious of an issue. 

Last little bits of advice:
- try not to dry your bras in the dryer, if you're doing that. The heat helps the elastic stretch out more over time, which could be contributing to your band issues.
- if you have any favorites and you're not afraid to sew, try shortening the bands with a crapload of zigzag stitches. It's not the most elegant solution, but it is thrifty!
- above all, try on more bras than you can possibly imagine, then try on some more. There *are* good bras out there!</description>
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<p><a href="http://www.herroom.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.herroom.com/</a></p>
<p>I LOVE it. The majority of bras that really fit me are british (and they don&#8217;t often go above a 40 band size, which sucks, but bra extenders aren&#8217;t that horrible.) For the original questioner, I think that they&#8217;d be her best bet, since they have a lot of variety in style for the smaller band/larger cup folks. </p>
<p>See - cute!<br />
<a href="http://www.herroom.com/Felina-7975-Victoria-Full-Glamour-Semi-Demi--Bra.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.herroom.com/Felina-7975-Victoria-Full-Glamour-Semi-Demi&#8211;Bra.shtml</a></p>
<p>Herroom has good return policies, though there&#8217;s not free shipping, so that&#8217;s an issue. They do offer measurement charts for each manufacturer, but I recently tried a bunch of new styles, and had to send them all back to get new sizes, since fit is so nefarious of an issue. </p>
<p>Last little bits of advice:<br />
- try not to dry your bras in the dryer, if you&#8217;re doing that. The heat helps the elastic stretch out more over time, which could be contributing to your band issues.<br />
- if you have any favorites and you&#8217;re not afraid to sew, try shortening the bands with a crapload of zigzag stitches. It&#8217;s not the most elegant solution, but it is thrifty!<br />
- above all, try on more bras than you can possibly imagine, then try on some more. There *are* good bras out there!</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;A Call To Boobs&#8221; by acherusia</title>
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		<dc:creator>acherusia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something I've found is quite often if you exceed the sizing in department stores, they'll keep business cards of a store that specializes in extra large bras around.  That's how I got the name of the local boutique that carries...well I'm an H-cup so at least up to there.  Other than that, well, you can order online but it's always a risk.  I'm more likely to do it with bathing suits, honestly, since those my local boutique does not carry other than in styles that look like they're for people triple my age.  And support isn't as important in bathing suits since the water offers some support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something I&#8217;ve found is quite often if you exceed the sizing in department stores, they&#8217;ll keep business cards of a store that specializes in extra large bras around.  That&#8217;s how I got the name of the local boutique that carries&#8230;well I&#8217;m an H-cup so at least up to there.  Other than that, well, you can order online but it&#8217;s always a risk.  I&#8217;m more likely to do it with bathing suits, honestly, since those my local boutique does not carry other than in styles that look like they&#8217;re for people triple my age.  And support isn&#8217;t as important in bathing suits since the water offers some support.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;A Call To Boobs&#8221; by Anu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loooooovvee Wacoal's bras. They're the only bras where I feel that once I've established my size I can actually pick a bra off the rack and buy it without trying it on (I don't often do that though, because I prefer to be cautious about bras). Their bras offer a lot of support and I recently found a wonderful strapless bra from them too that allowed me to finally wear some of the cute tops that less well-endowed women wear all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loooooovvee Wacoal&#8217;s bras. They&#8217;re the only bras where I feel that once I&#8217;ve established my size I can actually pick a bra off the rack and buy it without trying it on (I don&#8217;t often do that though, because I prefer to be cautious about bras). Their bras offer a lot of support and I recently found a wonderful strapless bra from them too that allowed me to finally wear some of the cute tops that less well-endowed women wear all the time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;A Call To Boobs&#8221; by O.C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>O.C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The back strap riding up:  I went for a fitting at an "Intimacy" store (in the Houston Galleria, but look to see if there's one near you).  I had been wearing my shoulder straps cinched up as tight as they went, but the lady immediately loosened them enough that the back strap would be parallel to the ground.  PRESTO!   That was the solution, along with buying a slightly snugger band size.  So try that with the bras you have now, and  you might be surprised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The back strap riding up:  I went for a fitting at an &#8220;Intimacy&#8221; store (in the Houston Galleria, but look to see if there&#8217;s one near you).  I had been wearing my shoulder straps cinched up as tight as they went, but the lady immediately loosened them enough that the back strap would be parallel to the ground.  PRESTO!   That was the solution, along with buying a slightly snugger band size.  So try that with the bras you have now, and  you might be surprised.</p>
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