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		<title>Fat Women On Stage &amp; Screen</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 12:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mo pie</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We wrote about Neil LaBute&#8217;s play &#8220;Fat Pig&#8221; way back in 2006 (links to a cached version of the post since mopie.com is still intermittently down) so it&#8217;s been on the radar for quite some time. But Sheila sent along this article in the Guardian, in response to the new London production of &#8220;Fat Pig,&#8221; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We wrote about Neil LaBute&#8217;s play &#8220;Fat Pig&#8221; <a href="http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:iRbVhix8TYQJ:www.mopie.com/blog/2006/01/something-other-than-mom-fat-friend.html+site:mopie.com+fat+pig&#038;hl=en&#038;ct=clnk&#038;cd=1&#038;gl=us&#038;client=firefox-a">way back in 2006</a> (links to a cached version of the post since mopie.com is still intermittently down) so it&#8217;s been on the radar for quite some time. But Sheila sent along <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/stage/theatreblog/2008/oct/06/theatre">this article</a> in the Guardian, in response to the new London production of &#8220;Fat Pig,&#8221; that extends the discussion to the topic of fat women in theater, in general.</p>
<blockquote><p>Big women on the stage. By and large, they get a bum deal. If an operatic audience can translate a statuesque and well-fed soprano into a consumptive waif with tiny, frozen hands, and go home streaming snot and tears even though Mimi&#8217;s build is more matronly than miniature, why should a theatrical audience not be asked to accommodate a curvaceous Cordelia, a jouncing Juliet, a delectably plump Helen of Troy?</p>
<p>It might be impossible to imagine a fat &#8220;straight&#8221; heroine in a conventional film, in which Knightley-esque proportions are the norm&#8230;But on stage I infinitely prefer a big presence and a big body to the kind of antiseptic, neat-calved, pretty-pretty who packs too many vowel sounds into her Shakespeare &#8211; &#8220;Oh, my Lo-or-ord!&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s an interesting perspective, but the author makes a couple of mistakes. Firstly, in invoking Marilyn&#8217;s Law (oh god, not the size 16 thing again, please) but more importantly, in implying (well, outright saying) that many if not most if not all conventionally thin, &#8220;pretty-pretty&#8221; women can&#8217;t act.</p>
<p>I would love to see more fat women on stage and screen, even just more normal-sized women would be a great start. But I also don&#8217;t think we need to tear down the &#8220;pretty-pretty&#8221; girls while we do it. It&#8217;s not their fault that they have thin bodies, and it shouldn&#8217;t negate their acting abilities.  It would just be nice to see them joined by an equal number of larger bodies&#8212;who can also be &#8220;pretty-pretty,&#8221; as we all know.</p>
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		<title>OMGWTFBBW!!</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mo pie</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ezinearticles.com just made a list of the &#8220;Top 40 BBWs of all time.&#8221;  Sounds good, right? Sure, until you get to the list, and you realize that some of the women on it are not all what most people would consider &#8220;BBW&#8221;s.  Mo&#8217;nique, Camryn Manheim, Mama Cass, Rosie O&#8217;Donnell&#8230; sure.  But Jamie [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ezinearticles.com just <a href="http://ezinearticles.com/?Top-40-BBW-%28Big-Beautiful-Women%29-of-All-Time&#038;id=369235">made a list</a> of the &#8220;Top 40 BBWs of all time.&#8221;  Sounds good, right? Sure, until you get to the list, and you realize that some of the women on it are not all what most people would consider &#8220;BBW&#8221;s.  Mo&#8217;nique, Camryn Manheim, Mama Cass, Rosie O&#8217;Donnell&#8230; sure.  But Jamie Lee Curtis? Sophia Loren? Kate Winslet?  And of course, Marilyn Monroe is number one. <a href="http://www.bfdblog.com/?p=271">Marilyn&#8217;s Law</a> strikes again!</p>
<p><a href="http://fatlotofgood.wordpress.com/2007/11/01/top-40-bbw-of-all-timeif-they-are-bbw-what-does-that-make-the-rest-of-us/">Fat Lot of Good</a> says it all:</p>
<blockquote><p> J.Anthony, the founder of BBWSinglesFinder, claims that it is time to “celebrate real women” (emphasis mine). Last time I checked even skinny women were real women. Weight does not have bearing on whether someone is a “real” woman or not. Claiming that a thin woman isn’t a “real” woman is just as offensive as claiming a fat woman isn’t a “real” woman&#8230;</p>
<p>I do take issue with J.Anthony’s assertion that BBW “does not necessarily mean a fat woman”. He says that “A BBW is a woman who is proud of who she is and isn’t ashamed of her body… A true BBW is confident, sexy and real.” Hmmm…ok…so a size 0 who is proud of who she is and unashamed of her body is a BBW? Somehow I don’t think so. </p></blockquote>
<p>So, I&#8217;m interested in your thoughts on the term BBW. To me, the first B means that it refers to a &#8220;big&#8221; woman&#8212;but what&#8217;s the cutoff point for that? Do you think Margaret Cho belongs on this list? How about Carnie Wilson, who had weight-loss surgery&#8212;does she still qualify? Do you consider yourself a BBW? Why or why not?</p>
<p>(By the way, the <a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=omgwtfbbq">title</a> of this post comes from <a href="http://yossarian-lives.blogspot.com/">Kevin&#8217;s</a> typo when we were playing Scrabulous.)</p>
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		<title>Gawking</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mo pie</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gawker posts a video of an allegedly thin, allegedly airheaded television host, who reports on the comparative intellgence levels of women with various waist-to-hip ratios. The comments, of course, are where it gets interesting.
&#8220;Stop saying curvy when you mean fat&#8221;:
Also, my personal pet peeve is people who use the word &#8220;curvy&#8221; to mean fat. I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gawker <a href="http://gawker.com/news/phat-girlz/juliet-huddy-proves-that-fat-girls-are-smarter-than-skinny-ones-321566.php">posts a video</a> of an allegedly thin, allegedly airheaded television host, who reports on the comparative intellgence levels of women with various waist-to-hip ratios. The comments, of course, are where it gets interesting.</p>
<p>&#8220;Stop saying curvy when you mean fat&#8221;:</p>
<blockquote><p>Also, my personal pet peeve is people who use the word &#8220;curvy&#8221; to mean fat. I have curves. I have big hips and a small waist and big boobs. That&#8217;s curvy. But I am not fat. A person can be both fat and curvy, but being curvy does not make you fat!</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;Fat is not attractive and fat people are not voluptuous&#8221;:</p>
<blockquote><p>I hate that the word &#8220;voluptuous&#8221; has been hijacked by the fatties. Mo&#8217;Nique saying she&#8217;s curvy is like that Nolita model saying she&#8217;s healthy and trim. We&#8217;re the voluptuous, well-endowed 36-29-36 ones. (Well, I&#8217;m 38 in the hips, so I probably need some work.) Plus, who says you can&#8217;t be both attractive and smart?</p></blockquote>
<p>Is there a chart for figuring out when I stop being curvy and start being bigalicious?</p>
<blockquote><p>Ugh, seriously. As much as I get people wanting a nicer term than &#8220;plus size&#8221; to describe larger women, they can&#8217;t have curvy! It&#8217;s mine. I think we need a new word for sexy plus-size women. Might I suggest bigalicious?</p></blockquote>
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A &#8220;defense&#8221; of curvy women that insults thin women, men&#8230; and curvy women.</p>
<blockquote><p>Men who like curvy women (by that I mean ass-men) are men who like WOMEN. Men who like skinny boy-body women are either haters, men who are afraid of women, or in the closet. I know because I&#8217;ve been both skinny and curvalicious at different times in my life, and I get more positive attention when I have some meat on my bones.</p></blockquote>
<p>Marilyn Monroe&#8217;s name is dropped. Maybe there should be a Monroe&#8217;s corollary to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law">Godwin&#8217;s Law</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Can I declare a moratorium on Quoting Marilyn Monroe&#8217;s Dress Size every time the word &#8216;curvy woman&#8217; comes up? She was not some sort of hour glass goddess from a different time when all men loved and respected women with tits and ass. Yes, it is pathetic that she&#8217;d be considered fat by today&#8217;s standards. But even then, she was asked to lose weight by the studios and was on a constant diet, which explains her yo-yo&#8217;ing weight. And is she really the best role model for natural, womanly beauty? She of the plastic surgery, fake hair and pancake make-up? Hooray for Hollywood.</p></blockquote>
<p>Why every girl needs a gay best friend:</p>
<blockquote><p>I took a gay boy with me shopping to Lane Bryant one time. That day, they happened to be handing out some new nutritional bar as a promotion. And he went, &#8220;Oh my God, is it always like this in here?&#8221; And I said, &#8220;No, usually it&#8217;s just sticks of butter.&#8221; And he said, &#8220;Oh my God, I LOVE fat girl stores!!!&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>It goes on. And on. And on.  Happy reading!</p>
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