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		<title>By: Bubbles</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2010/02/23/fat-debate-on-nightline-tonight/comment-page-1/#comment-62324</link>
		<dc:creator>Bubbles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick,

This is super late, but worth pointing out. ALL people are capable of being discriminated against on an interpersonal level. I can decide I don&#039;t like you because you are ginger/tall/etc. BUT some forms of discrimination are FAR more prevalent than others. The likelihood that your wife will lose a job opportunity, lose a marriage prospect, be humiliated in public, be DEVALUED because of her thinness is far far less than it&#039;s likelihood if she were 100lbs heavier-and every possible study done on discrimination and size confirms this. She would likely even make less money. Hell, I&#039;m willing to bet you wouldn&#039;t dare date/marry a woman near your size.  To compare the two is highly simplistic and borderline offensive. I don&#039;t doubt that those women give her shit if you say they do, but if you consider why-the unsavory and unspoken dynamic between women who have to compete when one is privileged and the other isn&#039;t, it&#039;s no surprise. NOT SAYING IT&#039;S RIGHT. But it&#039;s no surprise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick,</p>
<p>This is super late, but worth pointing out. ALL people are capable of being discriminated against on an interpersonal level. I can decide I don&#8217;t like you because you are ginger/tall/etc. BUT some forms of discrimination are FAR more prevalent than others. The likelihood that your wife will lose a job opportunity, lose a marriage prospect, be humiliated in public, be DEVALUED because of her thinness is far far less than it&#8217;s likelihood if she were 100lbs heavier-and every possible study done on discrimination and size confirms this. She would likely even make less money. Hell, I&#8217;m willing to bet you wouldn&#8217;t dare date/marry a woman near your size.  To compare the two is highly simplistic and borderline offensive. I don&#8217;t doubt that those women give her shit if you say they do, but if you consider why-the unsavory and unspoken dynamic between women who have to compete when one is privileged and the other isn&#8217;t, it&#8217;s no surprise. NOT SAYING IT&#8217;S RIGHT. But it&#8217;s no surprise.</p>
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		<title>By: Chica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 00:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The very premise of a diet is the cause of its own failure, so it doesn&#039;t surprise me that most fail - I was wondering where the 95% came from and how &quot;fail&quot; is defined.. is it that almost no one loses weight on a diet, that people don&#039;t follow through with diets, or that people gain weight back? I&#039;m really curious to find actual studies about this (I&#039;m sure they&#039;ve been done) that prove the ineffective quality of dieting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The very premise of a diet is the cause of its own failure, so it doesn&#8217;t surprise me that most fail &#8211; I was wondering where the 95% came from and how &#8220;fail&#8221; is defined.. is it that almost no one loses weight on a diet, that people don&#8217;t follow through with diets, or that people gain weight back? I&#8217;m really curious to find actual studies about this (I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;ve been done) that prove the ineffective quality of dieting.</p>
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		<title>By: Is it Ok to be Fat? &#124; Feed Me I'm Cranky</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2010/02/23/fat-debate-on-nightline-tonight/comment-page-1/#comment-60359</link>
		<dc:creator>Is it Ok to be Fat? &#124; Feed Me I'm Cranky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] caught wind (via BFD) of a Nightline debate airing this past Tuesday night called &#8220;Is it Ok to be [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kriss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kriss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 04:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I&#039;m going to start a coalition myself.  I&#039;ll call it the Greater Action Group Against Misinformed Elitist Miserable Egotistical Bony Blond Fuckwits.  

Or just GAGMEME for short.

Think the IRS would approve our application for charitable status?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;m going to start a coalition myself.  I&#8217;ll call it the Greater Action Group Against Misinformed Elitist Miserable Egotistical Bony Blond Fuckwits.  </p>
<p>Or just GAGMEME for short.</p>
<p>Think the IRS would approve our application for charitable status?</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Thornton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Thornton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 02:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, I want to say that while this debate was entertaining, I&#039;m not sure how it is billed as journalism in any sort of way. It would have been nice to have a moderator who was a medical professional who would challenge everyone. Also, the so-called plus-size model was clearly what most people and medical literature would consider normal weight. It might have been interesting to have someone else on the debate who was actually overweight. 

It&#039;s a bit disingenuous, however, to say that because 95 percent of diets fail, people cannot lose weight. Diets fail but permanent lifestyle changes based on science and medicine work. To act like people can&#039;t lose weight is preposterous. Yes, diets don&#039;t work. But that&#039;s because people view diets as something temporary -- lose the weight and go back to your previously unhealthy habits. Making a lifelong commitment to eating healthy and being active can make significant changes for people. 

If most people just did two things that aren&#039;t even dieting or changing what they eat, they would most likely weigh less: Be more active and eat organic. Most Americans move far too little. I wear a pedometer everyday and try to walk at least 10,000 steps (around 5 miles, but varies depending on stride length). This way, even if I don&#039;t &quot;work out,&quot; I&#039;m being active. We should strive to be active every day in some way.

There is a growing body of medical literature that says that pesticides on fruits and vegetables and antibiotics and hormones giving to cattle are endocrine disrupters. In layman&#039;s terms, they are known as obesogens. They mess up your hormones, disposing you to weight gain, even if you otherwise eat healthy. There is a new book, The New American Diet, that talks about this subject.

And yes thin people can be and are discriminated against. While I am not personally thin (a big mountain man would be a more accurate description), my fiancee is thin. She constantly hears comments from her [female] coworkers about her weight and how she should eat more or have more cake at company functions. My fiancee eats plenty (mostly healthy food) and doesn&#039;t have body issues, but many of her coworkers do not healthy food and have body image issues. Because of their own bitterness, they find it appropriate to make snide remaks to her. Remarks that would not be considered acceptable for a thin person to make to an obese one.

In fact, the very idea that any group of people could not be discriminated against is repugnant. Anyone can be discriminated against and the very idea that they could not be, is in fact itself discrimination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I want to say that while this debate was entertaining, I&#8217;m not sure how it is billed as journalism in any sort of way. It would have been nice to have a moderator who was a medical professional who would challenge everyone. Also, the so-called plus-size model was clearly what most people and medical literature would consider normal weight. It might have been interesting to have someone else on the debate who was actually overweight. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a bit disingenuous, however, to say that because 95 percent of diets fail, people cannot lose weight. Diets fail but permanent lifestyle changes based on science and medicine work. To act like people can&#8217;t lose weight is preposterous. Yes, diets don&#8217;t work. But that&#8217;s because people view diets as something temporary &#8212; lose the weight and go back to your previously unhealthy habits. Making a lifelong commitment to eating healthy and being active can make significant changes for people. </p>
<p>If most people just did two things that aren&#8217;t even dieting or changing what they eat, they would most likely weigh less: Be more active and eat organic. Most Americans move far too little. I wear a pedometer everyday and try to walk at least 10,000 steps (around 5 miles, but varies depending on stride length). This way, even if I don&#8217;t &#8220;work out,&#8221; I&#8217;m being active. We should strive to be active every day in some way.</p>
<p>There is a growing body of medical literature that says that pesticides on fruits and vegetables and antibiotics and hormones giving to cattle are endocrine disrupters. In layman&#8217;s terms, they are known as obesogens. They mess up your hormones, disposing you to weight gain, even if you otherwise eat healthy. There is a new book, The New American Diet, that talks about this subject.</p>
<p>And yes thin people can be and are discriminated against. While I am not personally thin (a big mountain man would be a more accurate description), my fiancee is thin. She constantly hears comments from her [female] coworkers about her weight and how she should eat more or have more cake at company functions. My fiancee eats plenty (mostly healthy food) and doesn&#8217;t have body issues, but many of her coworkers do not healthy food and have body image issues. Because of their own bitterness, they find it appropriate to make snide remaks to her. Remarks that would not be considered acceptable for a thin person to make to an obese one.</p>
<p>In fact, the very idea that any group of people could not be discriminated against is repugnant. Anyone can be discriminated against and the very idea that they could not be, is in fact itself discrimination.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 23:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to risk my life here and say that *some* thin people are discriminated against. I am thin and I have been discriminated against by a number of people throughout my life, many of which who have admitted to being discriminatory against me and thin people. Now I&#039;m not saying there&#039;s some general statement to be said that &quot;thin people are discriminated against&quot; that&#039;s big enough to actually be a societal issue, but anyone and everyone can be and have been discriminated against at some point, whether it be about weight, race, gender, height, religions, and so on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to risk my life here and say that *some* thin people are discriminated against. I am thin and I have been discriminated against by a number of people throughout my life, many of which who have admitted to being discriminatory against me and thin people. Now I&#8217;m not saying there&#8217;s some general statement to be said that &#8220;thin people are discriminated against&#8221; that&#8217;s big enough to actually be a societal issue, but anyone and everyone can be and have been discriminated against at some point, whether it be about weight, race, gender, height, religions, and so on.</p>
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		<title>By: FATGURL!</title>
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		<dc:creator>FATGURL!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yea... Meme was pretty foolish saying thin people are discriminated against..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yea&#8230; Meme was pretty foolish saying thin people are discriminated against..</p>
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		<title>By: FATGURL!</title>
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		<dc:creator>FATGURL!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always find it funny how formerly fat folks try to preach to others about how much they need to lose weight. I agree people need to be healthier...but lets call a spade a spade..the rantings of the Meme woman and the others was not out of concern for health but because of society&#039;s distaste with fat people....And just because weight is something you can change doesnt mean you should discriminate.. I understand the more space on a flight thing... and possibly being charged for two seats...but charge for those who take up more leg room,etc...

Be healthy people..healthy manifests itself in many different ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always find it funny how formerly fat folks try to preach to others about how much they need to lose weight. I agree people need to be healthier&#8230;but lets call a spade a spade..the rantings of the Meme woman and the others was not out of concern for health but because of society&#8217;s distaste with fat people&#8230;.And just because weight is something you can change doesnt mean you should discriminate.. I understand the more space on a flight thing&#8230; and possibly being charged for two seats&#8230;but charge for those who take up more leg room,etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Be healthy people..healthy manifests itself in many different ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 20:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched the debate and while yes, I wanted to stuff a twinkie in MeMe&#039;s mouth every time she opened it, overall I thought it was very interesting. Marianne was awesome. I think my favorite part was when MeMe insinuated that thin people are discriminated against in America and Marianne just started laughing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the debate and while yes, I wanted to stuff a twinkie in MeMe&#8217;s mouth every time she opened it, overall I thought it was very interesting. Marianne was awesome. I think my favorite part was when MeMe insinuated that thin people are discriminated against in America and Marianne just started laughing.</p>
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		<title>By: BigBoi</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigBoi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, I just googled you and you might be a real doc but it seems highly doubtful when you make blanket statements like &quot;Woman on left was morbidly obese and surely unhealthy.&quot;  If you are an actual doc, you are the reason fat people don&#039;t go to the doctor.  Your comment showcases your total ignorance and prejudice and I feel sorry for any patient you could have that doesn&#039;t conform to your standards of what is average.  

But my guess is that you aren&#039;t a doc, that you wrote what you did to stir up trouble and that you have no intention of coming back to read what others have written.  Wow, great use of your time.  Shouldn&#039;t you be out &quot;playing ball&quot; vs. sitting at a computer, typing bigoted comments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, I just googled you and you might be a real doc but it seems highly doubtful when you make blanket statements like &#8220;Woman on left was morbidly obese and surely unhealthy.&#8221;  If you are an actual doc, you are the reason fat people don&#8217;t go to the doctor.  Your comment showcases your total ignorance and prejudice and I feel sorry for any patient you could have that doesn&#8217;t conform to your standards of what is average.  </p>
<p>But my guess is that you aren&#8217;t a doc, that you wrote what you did to stir up trouble and that you have no intention of coming back to read what others have written.  Wow, great use of your time.  Shouldn&#8217;t you be out &#8220;playing ball&#8221; vs. sitting at a computer, typing bigoted comments?</p>
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