Comments on: Dollars And Sense http://www.bfdblog.com/2009/07/15/dollars-and-sense/ We're bringing chubby back. Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:59:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Meg http://www.bfdblog.com/2009/07/15/dollars-and-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-17915 Meg Fri, 24 Jul 2009 03:45:23 +0000 http://www.bfdblog.com/?p=1329#comment-17915 "Nearly 80% of diseases are curable/treatable by a healthy diet and regular exercise." That's why life expectancies have gotten so much shorter since the hunter-gatherer days, when people got more exercise and ate unprocessed foods! Haven't y'all read the Bible? There was a guy who lived for 969 years!!!!! I bet the average life expectancy back then was, like, 850. “Nearly 80% of diseases are curable/treatable by a healthy diet and regular exercise.”

That’s why life expectancies have gotten so much shorter since the hunter-gatherer days, when people got more exercise and ate unprocessed foods! Haven’t y’all read the Bible? There was a guy who lived for 969 years!!!!! I bet the average life expectancy back then was, like, 850.

]]> By: Caitlin http://www.bfdblog.com/2009/07/15/dollars-and-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-17917 Caitlin Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:56:20 +0000 http://www.bfdblog.com/?p=1329#comment-17917 <i>If saying fat people are fat because of health problems, allows you all to sleep at night peacefully, then so be it. Stay fat, and sick just please stop complaining.</i> Well that's a whole lot of hate. Also, your right to tell the fat people to stop demanding equality is nonexistent, and we're not going away. You might just have to live with that. If saying fat people are fat because of health problems, allows you all to sleep at night peacefully, then so be it.

Stay fat, and sick just please stop complaining.

Well that’s a whole lot of hate.

Also, your right to tell the fat people to stop demanding equality is nonexistent, and we’re not going away. You might just have to live with that.

]]> By: Ari http://www.bfdblog.com/2009/07/15/dollars-and-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-17926 Ari Tue, 21 Jul 2009 03:29:13 +0000 http://www.bfdblog.com/?p=1329#comment-17926 OK this? "If you’re fat, it’s your fault, but if you’re in a wheelchair then no one would dream of asking you how you got there (nor do I think they should). Some people’s fat may be their own fault, but then, some people get drunk, get behind the wheel of a car and hurt themselves. The drunk driving is a crime, eating is NOT." Makes me CRAZY Mad. As a person who is legitimately considered physically disabled (from birth, thankyouverymuch) to basically lump ME in the same category as someone who was in an ACCIDENT OF THEIR OWN MAKING is beyond amazingly upsetting. And the best part? People DO ask me how I got to be "how i am" ALL THE TIME. So, yes, people do dream of it actually. And then they walk up to me and open their mouths. So that assumption? Completely false. So maybe the above is the point. Some people are fat due to factors they control. Some people are due to factors outside their control. Is the former a disability? My mind screams NO given my own personal life circumstance (did I choose this? Hells no. Would I ever? Hells no.) but then by association, the person in the wheelchair because of the accident shouldn't be considered disabled either so therein lies the rub. Hmm. Very tricky. So maybe "disability" to me is something that no surgery will ever fix. Ever. I don't have that option. It simply does not exist. The person in the wheelchair doesn't have that option. The fat person? Probably has treatment options if they choose . (I say probably because not everyone is the same and this is NOT a blanket statement that people "should" want treatment of any kind if they are happy with how they are.) So anyways. I just had to put in my two cents. I hope I didn't offend anyone, but I could NOT believe my eyes when I saw the above comparison. OK this? “If you’re fat, it’s your fault, but if you’re in a wheelchair then no one would dream of asking you how you got there (nor do I think they should). Some people’s fat may be their own fault, but then, some people get drunk, get behind the wheel of a car and hurt themselves. The drunk driving is a crime, eating is NOT.” Makes me
CRAZY Mad.
As a person who is legitimately considered physically disabled (from birth, thankyouverymuch) to basically lump ME in the same category as someone who was in an ACCIDENT OF THEIR OWN MAKING is beyond amazingly upsetting.
And the best part? People DO ask me how I got to be “how i am” ALL THE TIME. So, yes, people do dream of it actually. And then they walk up to me and open their mouths. So that assumption? Completely false.
So maybe the above is the point. Some people are fat due to factors they control. Some people are due to factors outside their control. Is the former a disability? My mind screams NO given my own personal life circumstance (did I choose this? Hells no. Would I ever? Hells no.) but then by association, the person in the wheelchair because of the accident shouldn’t be considered disabled either so therein lies the rub. Hmm. Very tricky. So maybe “disability” to me is something that no surgery will ever fix. Ever. I don’t have that option. It simply does not exist. The person in the wheelchair doesn’t have that option. The fat person? Probably has treatment options if they choose . (I say probably because not everyone is the same and this is NOT a blanket statement that people “should” want treatment of any kind if they are happy with how they are.) So anyways. I just had to put in my two cents. I hope I didn’t offend anyone, but I could NOT believe my eyes when I saw the above comparison.

]]> By: Alana http://www.bfdblog.com/2009/07/15/dollars-and-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-17927 Alana Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:53:12 +0000 http://www.bfdblog.com/?p=1329#comment-17927 If saying fat people are fat because of health problems, allows you all to sleep at night peacefully, then so be it. Stay fat, and sick just please stop complaining. If saying fat people are fat because of health problems, allows you all to sleep at night peacefully, then so be it.

Stay fat, and sick just please stop complaining.

]]> By: ndlesdream http://www.bfdblog.com/2009/07/15/dollars-and-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-17925 ndlesdream Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:21:59 +0000 http://www.bfdblog.com/?p=1329#comment-17925 Apologies for monopolizing your blog mo pie but I have to say this: Okay fellow fats, I’m fucking sick to death of all this self-hatred and shame spiral bullshit! When the fuck are we going to band together as a group and fight our oppressors? Society will continue to make us the scapegoats for all their ills unless we stand up and say No More!! I’m sick of reading countless stories of obese people harassed by airlines, by their fellow citizens, by the medical community, by everyone. We have got to take a stand, we’ve got to start fighting this. If you don’t know this stuff already, here’s your crash course: Obesity is genetic, dieting can’t alter your genetics but can kill you or permanently damage your body, obesity does not kill and it does not cause any other disease*. The treatment we suffer as obese people is no different than that which was suffered by African-Americans for centuries. In fact, every time you see the word fat or obese used in a negative light, I want you to mentally replace that word with the n-word. It’s no different, it’s completely socially acceptable to say fat derogatorily just as it was completely socially acceptable to use the n-word at one time. Usage of these words is never justified, it’s just the way it is or was and will continue to be forever until we say NO. Every time you think of buying into the idea that fat is wrong and you need to change to be a better, more socially acceptable person, think of someone of color buying into the idea that only white is beautiful, think of that person sitting down with a bottle of bleach and a scrub brush. Neither one (fat or of color) can change the way they look but the real point is that NONE of us should be shamed into pointless, destructive self-hatred in the first damn place. We will continue to be harassed and oppressed until we stand up for ourselves. When will we say enough is enough? When will we allow our voices to be heard? When we will stop apologizing for who we are? When? *if you want to read more about the REALITY that supports what I've written, check out Sandy's blog Junkfood Science. Apologies for monopolizing your blog mo pie but I have to say this: Okay fellow fats, I’m fucking sick to death of all this self-hatred and shame spiral bullshit! When the fuck are we going to band together as a group and fight our oppressors? Society will continue to make us the scapegoats for all their ills unless we stand up and say No More!! I’m sick of reading countless stories of obese people harassed by airlines, by their fellow citizens, by the medical community, by everyone. We have got to take a stand, we’ve got to start fighting this. If you don’t know this stuff already, here’s your crash course: Obesity is genetic, dieting can’t alter your genetics but can kill you or permanently damage your body, obesity does not kill and it does not cause any other disease*. The treatment we suffer as obese people is no different than that which was suffered by African-Americans for centuries. In fact, every time you see the word fat or obese used in a negative light, I want you to mentally replace that word with the n-word. It’s no different, it’s completely socially acceptable to say fat derogatorily just as it was completely socially acceptable to use the n-word at one time. Usage of these words is never justified, it’s just the way it is or was and will continue to be forever until we say NO. Every time you think of buying into the idea that fat is wrong and you need to change to be a better, more socially acceptable person, think of someone of color buying into the idea that only white is beautiful, think of that person sitting down with a bottle of bleach and a scrub brush. Neither one (fat or of color) can change the way they look but the real point is that NONE of us should be shamed into pointless, destructive self-hatred in the first damn place. We will continue to be harassed and oppressed until we stand up for ourselves. When will we say enough is enough? When will we allow our voices to be heard? When we will stop apologizing for who we are? When?

*if you want to read more about the REALITY that supports what I’ve written, check out Sandy’s blog Junkfood Science.

]]> By: glowlita http://www.bfdblog.com/2009/07/15/dollars-and-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-17924 glowlita Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:42:19 +0000 http://www.bfdblog.com/?p=1329#comment-17924 "You know what - I do make choices. I make a choice to concern myself less with my outside appearance than I do with my character." amen. i worked full time and went to school for 14 yrs to finish my BA. add in bipolar meds and you get fat. SORRY that i chose to prioritize my freaking education over my weight. we only get so much time and energy in this life. i don't understand why deciding to invest it in something other than what often amounts to unchecked vanity merits persecution. “You know what – I do make choices. I make a choice to concern myself less with my outside appearance than I do with my character.”

amen.

i worked full time and went to school for 14 yrs to finish my BA. add in bipolar meds and you get fat. SORRY that i chose to prioritize my freaking education over my weight.

we only get so much time and energy in this life. i don’t understand why deciding to invest it in something other than what often amounts to unchecked vanity merits persecution.

]]> By: Kris http://www.bfdblog.com/2009/07/15/dollars-and-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-17923 Kris Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:00:11 +0000 http://www.bfdblog.com/?p=1329#comment-17923 Trent needs a lesson in something other than his own culture too. By western cultural standards there are many women around the world who live in our melting pot who have "always" had big body parts -- because thats their genetics. I hate these myths that anyone can be thin if they just work hard enough....THAT RIGHT THERE - is what has made us a culture of women who feel UNWORTHLY and like FAILURES because we cannot "achieve" thinness. You know what - I do make choices. I make a choice to concern myself less with my outside appearance than I do with my character. And that results in me not looking like a hollywood starlet somedays. I am proud to say that I have also made a choice to LOVE eating chicken wings and beer and laughing it up once in a while.....instead of being miserable so society can approve of me. Why can't we put more emphasis on how we FEEL over what we look like in this world. JEEZ! ps - I love this site. Mo pie has stored up some SERIOUS good Karma on this. Trent needs a lesson in something other than his own culture too. By western cultural standards there are many women around the world who live in our melting pot who have “always” had big body parts — because thats their genetics.

I hate these myths that anyone can be thin if they just work hard enough….THAT RIGHT THERE – is what has made us a culture of women who feel UNWORTHLY and like FAILURES because we cannot “achieve” thinness.

You know what – I do make choices. I make a choice to concern myself less with my outside appearance than I do with my character. And that results in me not looking like a hollywood starlet somedays. I am proud to say that I have also made a choice to LOVE eating chicken wings and beer and laughing it up once in a while…..instead of being miserable so society can approve of me.

Why can’t we put more emphasis on how we FEEL over what we look like in this world. JEEZ!

ps – I love this site. Mo pie has stored up some SERIOUS good Karma on this.

]]> By: librarychair http://www.bfdblog.com/2009/07/15/dollars-and-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-17916 librarychair Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:02:01 +0000 http://www.bfdblog.com/?p=1329#comment-17916 "Combine that with a diet of frequently eating out" I saw this particular sentence and thought, wow, way to stereotype, and buy into popular food morality. Food that you didn't personally labor over is inherently less worthy than home cooked meals - eating out is equated with junk food is equated with laziness. Fat stereotypes abound. “Combine that with a diet of frequently eating out”

I saw this particular sentence and thought, wow, way to stereotype, and buy into popular food morality. Food that you didn’t personally labor over is inherently less worthy than home cooked meals – eating out is equated with junk food is equated with laziness. Fat stereotypes abound.

]]> By: Erin http://www.bfdblog.com/2009/07/15/dollars-and-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-17912 Erin Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:33:46 +0000 http://www.bfdblog.com/?p=1329#comment-17912 I think for as ignorant as people are about healthy lifestyle choices, they are just as ignorant to the conditions that cause folks to be fat, struggle or not, in the first place. While my thyroid certainly doesn't cause me to gain weight, it does not allow me to lose weight with any "normalcy" whatsoever. What pisses me off about the ignorance of these "eat less/move more" people, is that for some of us to reduce our calories any more than what has been suggested, we wouldn't be able to do any of the *moving* we're supposed to do without passing the hell out. I know I don't chime in here much these days, but as someone who is actively trying to find solutions to her thyroid conundrum for reasons that have nothing to do with weight - I have stupidly high cholesterol - I take such offense to comments like the ones Mo has highlighted. I think for as ignorant as people are about healthy lifestyle choices, they are just as ignorant to the conditions that cause folks to be fat, struggle or not, in the first place. While my thyroid certainly doesn’t cause me to gain weight, it does not allow me to lose weight with any “normalcy” whatsoever. What pisses me off about the ignorance of these “eat less/move more” people, is that for some of us to reduce our calories any more than what has been suggested, we wouldn’t be able to do any of the *moving* we’re supposed to do without passing the hell out.

I know I don’t chime in here much these days, but as someone who is actively trying to find solutions to her thyroid conundrum for reasons that have nothing to do with weight – I have stupidly high cholesterol – I take such offense to comments like the ones Mo has highlighted.

]]> By: littlem http://www.bfdblog.com/2009/07/15/dollars-and-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-17922 littlem Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:58:07 +0000 http://www.bfdblog.com/?p=1329#comment-17922 Why is it that the moronic morons who feel free to just spew their bloviated opinions on this topic without even looking, let alone reading, to see whether they might even be relevant to the article in question, always, <i><b>always</i></b> spell "exercise" wrong??? Why is it that the moronic morons who feel free to just spew their bloviated opinions on this topic without even looking, let alone reading, to see whether they might even be relevant to the article in question, always, always spell “exercise” wrong???

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