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		<title>By: Sylina</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2009/06/19/fat-in-literature/comment-page-1/#comment-17685</link>
		<dc:creator>Sylina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m currently reading the Josephine Fuller mysteries by Lynne Murray, and ZOMG!!! They&#039;re pretty awesome!  Jo&#039;s a fat chick, who&#039;s accepted it and lives her life, I&#039;m enjoying them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m currently reading the Josephine Fuller mysteries by Lynne Murray, and ZOMG!!! They&#8217;re pretty awesome!  Jo&#8217;s a fat chick, who&#8217;s accepted it and lives her life, I&#8217;m enjoying them.</p>
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		<title>By: K</title>
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		<dc:creator>K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coincidentally, the last book I read fits this theme: &lt;i&gt;The Little Giant of Aberdeen County&lt;/i&gt; by Tiffany Baker. The narrator, Truly, is very tall and &quot;solid&quot; from birth (at one point she is misdiagnosed with a form of acromegaly) and later becomes obese as well. The cover of the UK edition shows a plus-sized female dressmaker&#039;s form.

I read this book partly with an eye to how it would deal with these things, and I was interested to find that Truly&#039;s isolation from others in her small town is more tied up with her height and perceived lack of femininity. Her domineering and creepy brother-in-law, a doctor, comments unkindly on her weight, but she sees it as just one way in which she&#039;s different, not the main way.

Truly has a sister who is beautiful and desired, and she&#039;s described as &quot;plump&quot;, although from the context this is clearly just &quot;not skinny&quot;.

Does Truly lose all the weight? No, although she does lose some - no spoiler, it&#039;s mentioned in Chapter 1. But she doesn&#039;t become skinny and &quot;normal&quot; (&quot;Don&#039;t get me wrong: I was still me&quot;) and the process of her empowerment and independence from her brother-in-law begins before she &quot;begins to shrink&quot;, and is not directly tied up with it.

On the whole, I thought Baker dealt with the issues pretty well. I would have found it unconvincing if Truly hadn&#039;t experienced any adverse comments, but the characters who make them are well-established as unpleasant people, and Truly&#039;s own attitudes to her body are complex and quite convincing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coincidentally, the last book I read fits this theme: <i>The Little Giant of Aberdeen County</i> by Tiffany Baker. The narrator, Truly, is very tall and &#8220;solid&#8221; from birth (at one point she is misdiagnosed with a form of acromegaly) and later becomes obese as well. The cover of the UK edition shows a plus-sized female dressmaker&#8217;s form.</p>
<p>I read this book partly with an eye to how it would deal with these things, and I was interested to find that Truly&#8217;s isolation from others in her small town is more tied up with her height and perceived lack of femininity. Her domineering and creepy brother-in-law, a doctor, comments unkindly on her weight, but she sees it as just one way in which she&#8217;s different, not the main way.</p>
<p>Truly has a sister who is beautiful and desired, and she&#8217;s described as &#8220;plump&#8221;, although from the context this is clearly just &#8220;not skinny&#8221;.</p>
<p>Does Truly lose all the weight? No, although she does lose some &#8211; no spoiler, it&#8217;s mentioned in Chapter 1. But she doesn&#8217;t become skinny and &#8220;normal&#8221; (&#8220;Don&#8217;t get me wrong: I was still me&#8221;) and the process of her empowerment and independence from her brother-in-law begins before she &#8220;begins to shrink&#8221;, and is not directly tied up with it.</p>
<p>On the whole, I thought Baker dealt with the issues pretty well. I would have found it unconvincing if Truly hadn&#8217;t experienced any adverse comments, but the characters who make them are well-established as unpleasant people, and Truly&#8217;s own attitudes to her body are complex and quite convincing.</p>
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		<title>By: feral geographer</title>
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		<dc:creator>feral geographer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also, see &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zami&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Zami: A New Spelling of My Name&lt;/i&gt;&lt;a&gt;, a memoir-novel by audre lorde.  she states her fatness as a matter of fact, and is as strong a hero as any of us could ask for.

hey, we &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; need a bookclub... or maybe a list somewhere on this site, of recommended fat-friendly novels?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also, see <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zami" rel="nofollow"><i>Zami: A New Spelling of My Name</i></a><a>, a memoir-novel by audre lorde.  she states her fatness as a matter of fact, and is as strong a hero as any of us could ask for.</p>
<p>hey, we <i>do</i> need a bookclub&#8230; or maybe a list somewhere on this site, of recommended fat-friendly novels?</a></p>
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		<title>By: feral geographer</title>
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		<dc:creator>feral geographer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also, as a follow-up to the previous comment about wally lamb&#039;s novel &lt;i&gt;she&#039;s come undone&lt;/i&gt;: i agree with kim that it&#039;s a compelling read and i too was amazed at the author&#039;s insights.  however, as i recall the lead character becomes fat as an adolescent coping with the trauma of being raped, and she loses the weight once she is older and partnered (with a man).  it seems a bit too cliched, and fuels the stereotype that fat people are fat due to psychological distress.

in addition, i have a problem with the scene in which the protagonist is sexually assaulted by a queer woman, whose unwanted sexual advances are very oddly combined with a session of binge eating.  fat is an interesting issue in the queer community, especially due to the homophobic stereotypes of queer women being queer simply because we&#039;re too ugly to get a man.  so, while i think it was an interesting plot device to show that women too can be sexual predators, i really didn&#039;t like the way that this was framed:  it seemed to further equate food and eating with negativity, guilt, abuse, and mindfuckery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also, as a follow-up to the previous comment about wally lamb&#8217;s novel <i>she&#8217;s come undone</i>: i agree with kim that it&#8217;s a compelling read and i too was amazed at the author&#8217;s insights.  however, as i recall the lead character becomes fat as an adolescent coping with the trauma of being raped, and she loses the weight once she is older and partnered (with a man).  it seems a bit too cliched, and fuels the stereotype that fat people are fat due to psychological distress.</p>
<p>in addition, i have a problem with the scene in which the protagonist is sexually assaulted by a queer woman, whose unwanted sexual advances are very oddly combined with a session of binge eating.  fat is an interesting issue in the queer community, especially due to the homophobic stereotypes of queer women being queer simply because we&#8217;re too ugly to get a man.  so, while i think it was an interesting plot device to show that women too can be sexual predators, i really didn&#8217;t like the way that this was framed:  it seemed to further equate food and eating with negativity, guilt, abuse, and mindfuckery.</p>
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		<title>By: feral geographer</title>
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		<dc:creator>feral geographer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in &lt;a&gt;emma donoghue&lt;/a&gt;&#039;s excellent novel &lt;i&gt;hood&lt;/i&gt; the protagonist, pen, is fat and pretty great.  it&#039;s a really cool story, and donoghue neatly interweaves pen&#039;s understanding of herself as a (closeted) queer person and as a large woman.  there&#039;s this sense that pen doesn&#039;t think her body is &quot;correct&quot; much in the same way that she thinks her sexuality isn&#039;t:  she seems to accept and even cherish both on her own, but always with an air of guilty belief that she isn&#039;t the way she&#039;s &quot;supposed to be&quot;.  i won&#039;t give away any more, except to tell you that pen begins to see herself differently by the end of the novel and it&#039;s a fantastic read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in <a>emma donoghue</a>&#8216;s excellent novel <i>hood</i> the protagonist, pen, is fat and pretty great.  it&#8217;s a really cool story, and donoghue neatly interweaves pen&#8217;s understanding of herself as a (closeted) queer person and as a large woman.  there&#8217;s this sense that pen doesn&#8217;t think her body is &#8220;correct&#8221; much in the same way that she thinks her sexuality isn&#8217;t:  she seems to accept and even cherish both on her own, but always with an air of guilty belief that she isn&#8217;t the way she&#8217;s &#8220;supposed to be&#8221;.  i won&#8217;t give away any more, except to tell you that pen begins to see herself differently by the end of the novel and it&#8217;s a fantastic read.</p>
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		<title>By: mo pie</title>
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		<dc:creator>mo pie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We talked about Harry Potter &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bfdblog.com/2007/07/30/is-harry-potter-pro-fat/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;back in the day&lt;/a&gt; in case you&#039;re interested!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We talked about Harry Potter <a href="http://www.bfdblog.com/2007/07/30/is-harry-potter-pro-fat/" rel="nofollow">back in the day</a> in case you&#8217;re interested!</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, Aunt Marge is a fat woman who is depicted as a grotesque character who has an endless appetite for cruelty.

In The River Midnight, there is a merchant character named Misha, who is &quot;as big as any man and just as strong.&quot; She&#039;s depicted as a fat, robust character who enjoys a hotly sexual dalliance with a respected man in the village.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, Aunt Marge is a fat woman who is depicted as a grotesque character who has an endless appetite for cruelty.</p>
<p>In The River Midnight, there is a merchant character named Misha, who is &#8220;as big as any man and just as strong.&#8221; She&#8217;s depicted as a fat, robust character who enjoys a hotly sexual dalliance with a respected man in the village.</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernLib</title>
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		<dc:creator>SouthernLib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This doesn&#039;t count 100% since it was a movie based on a book but...  I just watched Sleeping Murder (an Miss Marple mystery) and Dawn French (probably at her heaviest) played a side character in the movie.  She was presented as very pretty.  Her weight was never mentioned.

It was not considered extraordinary that her character was married to a very handsome man or that there was one other man in love with her (as he fathered her child) or that her husband thought that a 3rd man was as well.  Nobody was shocked or surprised that she would have garnered the adoration of multiple men.  It was accepted as an ordinary fact along with all of the other ordinary facts in the movie.

In the little wrap-up at the end of the movie, the basic implication is that she ends up with both the husband and the lover or at least that both of them love her so much that they will put up with each other.

So, not really sticking with the request but if you get a chance to watch it, I would recommend it.  It made me all squee-y happy to see Dawn French play a character that is presented as beautiful and aware of her beauty and her sex appeal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This doesn&#8217;t count 100% since it was a movie based on a book but&#8230;  I just watched Sleeping Murder (an Miss Marple mystery) and Dawn French (probably at her heaviest) played a side character in the movie.  She was presented as very pretty.  Her weight was never mentioned.</p>
<p>It was not considered extraordinary that her character was married to a very handsome man or that there was one other man in love with her (as he fathered her child) or that her husband thought that a 3rd man was as well.  Nobody was shocked or surprised that she would have garnered the adoration of multiple men.  It was accepted as an ordinary fact along with all of the other ordinary facts in the movie.</p>
<p>In the little wrap-up at the end of the movie, the basic implication is that she ends up with both the husband and the lover or at least that both of them love her so much that they will put up with each other.</p>
<p>So, not really sticking with the request but if you get a chance to watch it, I would recommend it.  It made me all squee-y happy to see Dawn French play a character that is presented as beautiful and aware of her beauty and her sex appeal.</p>
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		<title>By: roxy</title>
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		<dc:creator>roxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Tamora Pierce&#039;s Magic Circle books, the one who describes herself as &quot;fat&quot; is the redhead, though given that they&#039;re still kids in the first book and none of the covers seem to show her as such, it&#039;s probably just &quot;mildly pudgy&quot; leftover baby fat or getting womanly curves earlier, more along the lines of &quot;Bridget Jones fat&quot;.  But it is the only example aside from &quot;She&#039;s Come Undone&quot; that I can remember with a fictional main female character who&#039;s not explicitly stated or assumed to be either thin, or if of average weight, all muscle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Tamora Pierce&#8217;s Magic Circle books, the one who describes herself as &#8220;fat&#8221; is the redhead, though given that they&#8217;re still kids in the first book and none of the covers seem to show her as such, it&#8217;s probably just &#8220;mildly pudgy&#8221; leftover baby fat or getting womanly curves earlier, more along the lines of &#8220;Bridget Jones fat&#8221;.  But it is the only example aside from &#8220;She&#8217;s Come Undone&#8221; that I can remember with a fictional main female character who&#8217;s not explicitly stated or assumed to be either thin, or if of average weight, all muscle.</p>
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		<title>By: mo pie</title>
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		<dc:creator>mo pie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thread makes me want to start a book club! I totally want to read some of these!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thread makes me want to start a book club! I totally want to read some of these!!</p>
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