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		<title>By: Clarita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clarita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve lived in Turkey, Venezuela and many other places.  I am average in the US, but in both Turkey and Venezuela, I was always the largest person around.  I never once saw an obese or even an overweight person in Turkey, no exageration.  I lost weight in Turkey - the food is very healthy and the lifestyle requires walking everywhere.  I was in Nigeria this month and people say &quot;you&#039;ve gained weight&quot; as a compliment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve lived in Turkey, Venezuela and many other places.  I am average in the US, but in both Turkey and Venezuela, I was always the largest person around.  I never once saw an obese or even an overweight person in Turkey, no exageration.  I lost weight in Turkey &#8211; the food is very healthy and the lifestyle requires walking everywhere.  I was in Nigeria this month and people say &#8220;you&#8217;ve gained weight&#8221; as a compliment.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re Japan: no, have never been, not sure what the attitude is there.

Re Australia&#039;s fat abuse: Google

fatties bus &quot;daily telegraph&quot;

and read the Comments. This reduced me to incoherent rage on Friday. Maybe worth a blog post by itself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Japan: no, have never been, not sure what the attitude is there.</p>
<p>Re Australia&#8217;s fat abuse: Google</p>
<p>fatties bus &#8220;daily telegraph&#8221;</p>
<p>and read the Comments. This reduced me to incoherent rage on Friday. Maybe worth a blog post by itself?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 19:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading mog&#039;s comments about Australian attitudes towards fat women, I had a flashback...

Many years ago when I was at my heaviest (a US size 14-16) I used to work in an office near a four-lane highway. To get to the other side, I&#039;d either have to use two pedestrian crossings with very slow lights, or nip across one four-lane highway when the traffic would allow. On an almost daily basis, some jerk would &lt;b&gt;actually change lanes and speed up&lt;/b&gt; while coming towards me. As I was wearing business wear and high heels, this was not only intimidating, but downright dangerous.

It was only after I lost weight and this stopped happening that I realised it was a form of fat-bashing. See the fatty run!

Ugh!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading mog&#8217;s comments about Australian attitudes towards fat women, I had a flashback&#8230;</p>
<p>Many years ago when I was at my heaviest (a US size 14-16) I used to work in an office near a four-lane highway. To get to the other side, I&#8217;d either have to use two pedestrian crossings with very slow lights, or nip across one four-lane highway when the traffic would allow. On an almost daily basis, some jerk would <b>actually change lanes and speed up</b> while coming towards me. As I was wearing business wear and high heels, this was not only intimidating, but downright dangerous.</p>
<p>It was only after I lost weight and this stopped happening that I realised it was a form of fat-bashing. See the fatty run!</p>
<p>Ugh!!!</p>
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		<title>By: O.C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>O.C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 18:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may seem slightly tacky, and perhaps triggering to some who&#039;ve struggled with thoughts of suicide.  I apologize in advance for that.

But I wonder how overweight this woman could possibly have been if her weight could be supported by a ceiling fan.  The story makes me think that this poor woman may have been tormented for being &quot;fat&quot; when she may have been fat only in a relative sense, by being &quot;not thin&quot; in a society where everyone must conform  to the rigid equation of thinness with beauty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may seem slightly tacky, and perhaps triggering to some who&#8217;ve struggled with thoughts of suicide.  I apologize in advance for that.</p>
<p>But I wonder how overweight this woman could possibly have been if her weight could be supported by a ceiling fan.  The story makes me think that this poor woman may have been tormented for being &#8220;fat&#8221; when she may have been fat only in a relative sense, by being &#8220;not thin&#8221; in a society where everyone must conform  to the rigid equation of thinness with beauty.</p>
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		<title>By: O.C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>O.C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 18:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously I mean &quot;has gone unchallenged&quot;.  :-/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously I mean &#8220;has gone unchallenged&#8221;.  :-/</p>
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		<title>By: O.C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>O.C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 18:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to ladyinanet:

&quot;We have to look at obesity as a symptom of underlying issues ranging that from lack a of education on how to eat healthy and how to exercise to battling depression with out the benefit of professional help.&quot;

I&#039;m very surprised that this comment has not gone unchallenged.  My body size is no more a symptom of underlying educational or psychological issues than my eye color is.  Research backs me up (Gina Kolata&#039;s &quot;Rethinking Thin&quot;).  Fat people are psychologically indistinguishable from the thin, and do not, on average, consume more food than the thin.

Being a fat person is not necessarily evidence of physical or psychological pathology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to ladyinanet:</p>
<p>&#8220;We have to look at obesity as a symptom of underlying issues ranging that from lack a of education on how to eat healthy and how to exercise to battling depression with out the benefit of professional help.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very surprised that this comment has not gone unchallenged.  My body size is no more a symptom of underlying educational or psychological issues than my eye color is.  Research backs me up (Gina Kolata&#8217;s &#8220;Rethinking Thin&#8221;).  Fat people are psychologically indistinguishable from the thin, and do not, on average, consume more food than the thin.</p>
<p>Being a fat person is not necessarily evidence of physical or psychological pathology.</p>
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		<title>By: Jazmin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jazmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to comment on the person who is all up in arms over the word Gordita.  I thought the whole point of fat acceptance is to move beyond giving positive and negative connotations to words such as fat and skinny. Because I&#039;m fat, i&#039;m not worse than someone who is skinny. It is a word that does not speak about my character, but is a simple description of me. I am fat, with brown hair and light skin. I own the word fat now. My mom has called me gordita, and it&#039;s said affectionately. Just because you can&#039;t understand that, doesn&#039;t mean you have to be upset  by it. I&#039;d like to think that because my mom used it as a nickname, it made it easier for me to cope with the teasing I faced in school, because fat wasn&#039;t an insult from my mom, I could deal with the word when it was used as an insult in school. I would almost, always say, yea, I am fat, just like you&#039;re asian, black, white, etc. I don&#039;t see the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to comment on the person who is all up in arms over the word Gordita.  I thought the whole point of fat acceptance is to move beyond giving positive and negative connotations to words such as fat and skinny. Because I&#8217;m fat, i&#8217;m not worse than someone who is skinny. It is a word that does not speak about my character, but is a simple description of me. I am fat, with brown hair and light skin. I own the word fat now. My mom has called me gordita, and it&#8217;s said affectionately. Just because you can&#8217;t understand that, doesn&#8217;t mean you have to be upset  by it. I&#8217;d like to think that because my mom used it as a nickname, it made it easier for me to cope with the teasing I faced in school, because fat wasn&#8217;t an insult from my mom, I could deal with the word when it was used as an insult in school. I would almost, always say, yea, I am fat, just like you&#8217;re asian, black, white, etc. I don&#8217;t see the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: mog</title>
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		<dc:creator>mog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m Australian, now living in the UK, and have travelled a bit around Europe and Thailand. I&#039;m about a US size 16, and busty which translates as:

fat in Australia. In fact, fat enough to warrant being yelled at on the street (which some other people commented on), mostly when riding a bike or otherwise exercising. In Australia I had to buy clothes in special stores, even department stores don&#039;t go up to my weight. Doctors would routinely suggest I lost weight.

average to plump in the UK. People presume I&#039;ll be interested in diet conversations, but no-one has ever called me fat over here - and in fact when I once mentioned how rude people could be about fat people in Australia, people were surprised that included me. I can buy clothes in department stores, and doctors have never bought up my weight, ever. I often get &quot;complementary&quot; comments from strangers about my breasts though, which irritates me.

Australia and the UK have almost the same average weight and height amongst women, its completely cultural. I think bigger people are more obvious in the UK, as they aren&#039;t publicly shamed for wearing tight clothing or &quot;my gosh&quot; bathers. I spent a while in  Finland, a country where  practically no one is fat or skinny, all sort of slender, and although I was the fattest person I ever saw there, no one commented or even seemed to notice.

Travel has completely reinforced my ideas that attitudes to fat are socially agreed on, and can be changed. I think my own country could do with some changed ideas on rudeness too, its not just fat people that get shouted at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m Australian, now living in the UK, and have travelled a bit around Europe and Thailand. I&#8217;m about a US size 16, and busty which translates as:</p>
<p>fat in Australia. In fact, fat enough to warrant being yelled at on the street (which some other people commented on), mostly when riding a bike or otherwise exercising. In Australia I had to buy clothes in special stores, even department stores don&#8217;t go up to my weight. Doctors would routinely suggest I lost weight.</p>
<p>average to plump in the UK. People presume I&#8217;ll be interested in diet conversations, but no-one has ever called me fat over here &#8211; and in fact when I once mentioned how rude people could be about fat people in Australia, people were surprised that included me. I can buy clothes in department stores, and doctors have never bought up my weight, ever. I often get &#8220;complementary&#8221; comments from strangers about my breasts though, which irritates me.</p>
<p>Australia and the UK have almost the same average weight and height amongst women, its completely cultural. I think bigger people are more obvious in the UK, as they aren&#8217;t publicly shamed for wearing tight clothing or &#8220;my gosh&#8221; bathers. I spent a while in  Finland, a country where  practically no one is fat or skinny, all sort of slender, and although I was the fattest person I ever saw there, no one commented or even seemed to notice.</p>
<p>Travel has completely reinforced my ideas that attitudes to fat are socially agreed on, and can be changed. I think my own country could do with some changed ideas on rudeness too, its not just fat people that get shouted at.</p>
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		<title>By: bolod</title>
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		<dc:creator>bolod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t say for sure about all parts of India but in my experience (born and raised in Bangladesh), one is made to feel far more ostracized in those parts of the world. Because not as much of the population is overweight and next to noone is obese (i don&#039;t know stats but i&#039;d say 1 in 500-i.e. my high school that was socio-economically priveleged and had a higher possibility of having a student/individual with higher weight)...anyway, it&#039;s worse in that sense..you feel like a freak, not just fat, but big, genetically *off* in a culture of those that on average weigh under 130lbs.
It&#039;s not as vitriolic though. Or maybe it is...i&#039;m not sure if i have an objective, neutral perspective. I associate nyc with fat-acceptance, compliments and being considered hot shit so in certain ways i&#039;m woefully oblivious to fat hate. It&#039;s a lot more institutionalized in media here though, the body bashing. And the fat hate extends to those that are not overweight or obese in the u.s.a. I think that I&#039;ve read that study on psych net and it was more about the fear of BECOMING FAT as relating to anti fat attitude.
People back home are not as mortified of becoming fat. As far as the men are concerned, it means they have an abundance of food. Women are more concerned, but only to a certain degree. A lot of women i still know back home are trying to GAIN weight and curves, a phenomenon that I NEVER encounter in the states. The idealized figure is an hourglass, on a medium frame 120-160lbs being a fair estimate.
A lot of american women are mortified of going above 125.....thus the fear of fat being that much more magnified in western cultures. In my opinion it has less or little to do with individualistic notions and more to do with wealth, distribution of it, availability of food, famine/natural disasters history that dictate bad or no crops resulting in unstable food sources.
If a country on a general basis worries about having food, its less likely to be worried about having an excess, which they relate to fat (versus lack of self control-what is primarily associated with fat in the u.s.a.)

Maybe if i finally get some sleep I&#039;ll be able to articulate all this better.
 Often, the stereotype back home is that of the &#039;jolly, fat man&#039; and with women it swerves to being either buxom and sexy or non-marriage material/slovenly. Age and proportion are the key divide back home between &quot;good fat&quot; and &quot;bad fat&quot; but both concepts do exist.

Things are changing though. Cultural contagion, if you will. I see a lot of american attitudes about weight reflected in the cities/urban communities. size zero&#039;s have officially become a trend over there. Disheartening, really. It used to be the  curvy women in Satayjit Rai films that were idolized...now we have bimbo, paris-hilton wannabe twits like kareena kapoor setting trends for a new generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t say for sure about all parts of India but in my experience (born and raised in Bangladesh), one is made to feel far more ostracized in those parts of the world. Because not as much of the population is overweight and next to noone is obese (i don&#8217;t know stats but i&#8217;d say 1 in 500-i.e. my high school that was socio-economically priveleged and had a higher possibility of having a student/individual with higher weight)&#8230;anyway, it&#8217;s worse in that sense..you feel like a freak, not just fat, but big, genetically *off* in a culture of those that on average weigh under 130lbs.<br />
It&#8217;s not as vitriolic though. Or maybe it is&#8230;i&#8217;m not sure if i have an objective, neutral perspective. I associate nyc with fat-acceptance, compliments and being considered hot shit so in certain ways i&#8217;m woefully oblivious to fat hate. It&#8217;s a lot more institutionalized in media here though, the body bashing. And the fat hate extends to those that are not overweight or obese in the u.s.a. I think that I&#8217;ve read that study on psych net and it was more about the fear of BECOMING FAT as relating to anti fat attitude.<br />
People back home are not as mortified of becoming fat. As far as the men are concerned, it means they have an abundance of food. Women are more concerned, but only to a certain degree. A lot of women i still know back home are trying to GAIN weight and curves, a phenomenon that I NEVER encounter in the states. The idealized figure is an hourglass, on a medium frame 120-160lbs being a fair estimate.<br />
A lot of american women are mortified of going above 125&#8230;..thus the fear of fat being that much more magnified in western cultures. In my opinion it has less or little to do with individualistic notions and more to do with wealth, distribution of it, availability of food, famine/natural disasters history that dictate bad or no crops resulting in unstable food sources.<br />
If a country on a general basis worries about having food, its less likely to be worried about having an excess, which they relate to fat (versus lack of self control-what is primarily associated with fat in the u.s.a.)</p>
<p>Maybe if i finally get some sleep I&#8217;ll be able to articulate all this better.<br />
 Often, the stereotype back home is that of the &#8216;jolly, fat man&#8217; and with women it swerves to being either buxom and sexy or non-marriage material/slovenly. Age and proportion are the key divide back home between &#8220;good fat&#8221; and &#8220;bad fat&#8221; but both concepts do exist.</p>
<p>Things are changing though. Cultural contagion, if you will. I see a lot of american attitudes about weight reflected in the cities/urban communities. size zero&#8217;s have officially become a trend over there. Disheartening, really. It used to be the  curvy women in Satayjit Rai films that were idolized&#8230;now we have bimbo, paris-hilton wannabe twits like kareena kapoor setting trends for a new generation.</p>
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		<title>By: dra123</title>
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		<dc:creator>dra123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 21:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Aruba, but have many acquaintances living in the Netherlands, and they&#039;ve said that there is definitely an anti-fat attitude in the Netherlands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Aruba, but have many acquaintances living in the Netherlands, and they&#8217;ve said that there is definitely an anti-fat attitude in the Netherlands.</p>
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