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		<title>By: Hee Devillier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hee Devillier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 07:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fuckk yeahhh man aha</description>
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		<title>By: Annleigh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annleigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My boyfriend is thin but thinks he&#039;s fat because of all his jeans, only one pair still fits. Seriously. If I could afford to I would buy him a new pair just so he wouldn&#039;t complain so much. When we first got together he would say things to me like, &quot;oh you missed the glory days,&quot; &quot;I used to have a 6 pack&quot; and stuff like that. It doesn&#039;t matter that I have never dated a guy with a six-pack or even been attracted to one, in fact, he is the body type I like (tall and sturdy, good shoulders... I like to be manhandled :P ). When we were first dating, we ran into an old friend of his who was like &quot;Dude... you got FAT!&quot; I was shocked! Especially since the man is in no way fat! (off topic: can you imagine a woman greeting another women like that??!)  He laughed about it but I could tell he was upset. That&#039;s when he made the comment about his 6-pack, like he was apologizing to me. I reassure him and then try to shrug it off. Honestly, I don&#039;t even think a ripped body is hot! When he gets down on his weight, I don&#039;t know what to say.... he and I run together often and he bikes everywhere, so really I don&#039;t know what to say other than &quot;you aren&#039;t fat!!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My boyfriend is thin but thinks he&#8217;s fat because of all his jeans, only one pair still fits. Seriously. If I could afford to I would buy him a new pair just so he wouldn&#8217;t complain so much. When we first got together he would say things to me like, &#8220;oh you missed the glory days,&#8221; &#8220;I used to have a 6 pack&#8221; and stuff like that. It doesn&#8217;t matter that I have never dated a guy with a six-pack or even been attracted to one, in fact, he is the body type I like (tall and sturdy, good shoulders&#8230; I like to be manhandled :P ). When we were first dating, we ran into an old friend of his who was like &#8220;Dude&#8230; you got FAT!&#8221; I was shocked! Especially since the man is in no way fat! (off topic: can you imagine a woman greeting another women like that??!)  He laughed about it but I could tell he was upset. That&#8217;s when he made the comment about his 6-pack, like he was apologizing to me. I reassure him and then try to shrug it off. Honestly, I don&#8217;t even think a ripped body is hot! When he gets down on his weight, I don&#8217;t know what to say&#8230;. he and I run together often and he bikes everywhere, so really I don&#8217;t know what to say other than &#8220;you aren&#8217;t fat!!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
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		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 14:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi

I know for a fact that Fat Men have issues over their bodies. It is a statement that I have found that I have to repeat over and over in Fat Acceptance ironically.

I dismiss people that use the experiences of chubby and stout men as a argument Fat Men are much more accepted. Currently in the media Fat Men are experiencing far more attacks than Fat Women. If you Google &quot;Fat Men&quot; you will see hundreds articles attacking their sperm, hormones, intelligence, their &quot;unmanly&quot; appearance, their need for plastic surgery and so on.

If  you want to know what Fat Men experience ask a Fat Man.

William</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi</p>
<p>I know for a fact that Fat Men have issues over their bodies. It is a statement that I have found that I have to repeat over and over in Fat Acceptance ironically.</p>
<p>I dismiss people that use the experiences of chubby and stout men as a argument Fat Men are much more accepted. Currently in the media Fat Men are experiencing far more attacks than Fat Women. If you Google &#8220;Fat Men&#8221; you will see hundreds articles attacking their sperm, hormones, intelligence, their &#8220;unmanly&#8221; appearance, their need for plastic surgery and so on.</p>
<p>If  you want to know what Fat Men experience ask a Fat Man.</p>
<p>William</p>
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		<title>By: littlem</title>
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		<dc:creator>littlem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;And for the women out there, if your partner happens to be male, is he insecure? More so or less so than you are? &quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I dated a former athlete who displaced his insecurity about his weight -- I always thought he looked fine; but I wasn&#039;t comparing him to the former superbuff lowbodyfat ideal in his head -- by constantly harping on &lt;i&gt;my&lt;/i&gt; weight and projecting that someday I&#039;d be as large as some in my family (although following that up with saying &quot;But you probably won&#039;t, since you know so much about fitness and nutrition and stuff.&quot;)

Needless to say, he had to go.

I think slimmer and more muscular men -- you know, the types that have trouble keeping weight &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;on&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; --  have more anxiety about being smaller, since the correspondent hysteria in our society to how women can never be &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;small&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; enough is that men can never be &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;big&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; enough.

(Which is also the reason, I think, behind a lot of the endless hours in the gym, the steroid abuse, etc.)

That said, when men are both &quot;overweight&quot; and &quot;overfat&quot; I think they have to weigh much much more before a personal body anxiety and disapproval kicks in, because our society is much more lenient on men about that (heavy women are &quot;slovenly&quot; or &quot;threatening&quot;; heavy men are &quot;successful&quot; and &quot;big guys&quot;).
Because our society is sexist.

But the men who claim they are &quot;overweight&quot; or &quot;overfat&quot; and moan about it but bleat that they themselves are only attracted to  tiny size zero blondes and that they &quot;can&#039;t help what they&#039;re attracted to&quot;??  (Both gay and straight, although the dysmorphia gets lots more levels when you throw in the gay men as well)

Facepalm.  In a huuuuge way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>&#8220;And for the women out there, if your partner happens to be male, is he insecure? More so or less so than you are? &#8220;</i></p></blockquote>
<p>I dated a former athlete who displaced his insecurity about his weight &#8212; I always thought he looked fine; but I wasn&#8217;t comparing him to the former superbuff lowbodyfat ideal in his head &#8212; by constantly harping on <i>my</i> weight and projecting that someday I&#8217;d be as large as some in my family (although following that up with saying &#8220;But you probably won&#8217;t, since you know so much about fitness and nutrition and stuff.&#8221;)</p>
<p>Needless to say, he had to go.</p>
<p>I think slimmer and more muscular men &#8212; you know, the types that have trouble keeping weight <i><b>on</b></i> &#8212;  have more anxiety about being smaller, since the correspondent hysteria in our society to how women can never be <i><b>small</b></i> enough is that men can never be <i><b>big</b></i> enough.</p>
<p>(Which is also the reason, I think, behind a lot of the endless hours in the gym, the steroid abuse, etc.)</p>
<p>That said, when men are both &#8220;overweight&#8221; and &#8220;overfat&#8221; I think they have to weigh much much more before a personal body anxiety and disapproval kicks in, because our society is much more lenient on men about that (heavy women are &#8220;slovenly&#8221; or &#8220;threatening&#8221;; heavy men are &#8220;successful&#8221; and &#8220;big guys&#8221;).<br />
Because our society is sexist.</p>
<p>But the men who claim they are &#8220;overweight&#8221; or &#8220;overfat&#8221; and moan about it but bleat that they themselves are only attracted to  tiny size zero blondes and that they &#8220;can&#8217;t help what they&#8217;re attracted to&#8221;??  (Both gay and straight, although the dysmorphia gets lots more levels when you throw in the gay men as well)</p>
<p>Facepalm.  In a huuuuge way.</p>
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		<title>By: Bilt4Cmfrt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bilt4Cmfrt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember the &#039;Fat is a Feminist Issue&#039; discussion. Has it been over a year? Oy!

There is a lot being said on this thread that really does resonate as far as this fat male is concerned. In the vanity driven culture that is western society (and, increasingly, others as well) Guys really DO have it better as far as fat and a lot of other things are concerned. However this question revolves around male body insecurity and how it may be different from female, so. . .

Do guys have insecurities about our bodies? Of course we do. Put any, fairly in-shape, in a room with Michael Phelps or Plaxico Burress and I can almost guarantee that the he&#039;ll make the comparison at least once. If only in his own head. And provided, of course, that he&#039;s not a complete fan too awed by being &#039;in the presence of&#039; to even think about it. However, that&#039;s not the ONLY time this kind of thing can happen. Others have mentioned shirt clad swimming and there&#039;s also the utter refusal to wear any kind of Tank Tee. In the presence of the opposite sex, unless you&#039;ve got the body if a young Carl Lewis and/or an ego to match or are completely comfortable with the company your in, many guys would much rather sweat right through a shirt than just take the damn thing off.

Greater weight is a definite factor for guys as well. Again, vanity rules todays America, so it&#039;s not all that surprising that the more a guy weighs the more self confidence issues he&#039;s likely to experience in his life. Of course the most caustic acid test for that is how hard it is for some (even those who are technically just &#039;overweight&#039;) to go shirtless in public. Still, there are more men who have less &#039;publicly fat and semi nude&#039; issues then women. At 350 Lbs. and with a BMI in the high 40&#039;s, I&#039;ll go shirtless at a friends pool OR at the public beach without hesitation. Doesn&#039;t mean I&#039;m not aware of the stares, the comments from children or, the teens who might suddenly stop laughing when I happen to look in their direction. Mainly what it means is that I HATE wearing wet cloths more than I&#039;m worried about someone being disgusted by how I look. I guess I&#039;m just defiantly fat like that. Defiantly fat but not above hypocrisy. I&#039;m also one of those who will marinate in his own juices before subjecting people on the field at a pick-up football game to the sight of my naked torso in action. And maybe that has more to do with being on the traumatic side of several shirts vs. skins episodes in grade school.  So, yes, men do have body issues. More and more it seems with each generation, but far less so than women. However, I&#039;m hoping that this fat serves to ADD to the dynamic of Fat Acceptance rather than it becoming a reason to divide and weaken it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the &#8216;Fat is a Feminist Issue&#8217; discussion. Has it been over a year? Oy!</p>
<p>There is a lot being said on this thread that really does resonate as far as this fat male is concerned. In the vanity driven culture that is western society (and, increasingly, others as well) Guys really DO have it better as far as fat and a lot of other things are concerned. However this question revolves around male body insecurity and how it may be different from female, so. . .</p>
<p>Do guys have insecurities about our bodies? Of course we do. Put any, fairly in-shape, in a room with Michael Phelps or Plaxico Burress and I can almost guarantee that the he&#8217;ll make the comparison at least once. If only in his own head. And provided, of course, that he&#8217;s not a complete fan too awed by being &#8216;in the presence of&#8217; to even think about it. However, that&#8217;s not the ONLY time this kind of thing can happen. Others have mentioned shirt clad swimming and there&#8217;s also the utter refusal to wear any kind of Tank Tee. In the presence of the opposite sex, unless you&#8217;ve got the body if a young Carl Lewis and/or an ego to match or are completely comfortable with the company your in, many guys would much rather sweat right through a shirt than just take the damn thing off.</p>
<p>Greater weight is a definite factor for guys as well. Again, vanity rules todays America, so it&#8217;s not all that surprising that the more a guy weighs the more self confidence issues he&#8217;s likely to experience in his life. Of course the most caustic acid test for that is how hard it is for some (even those who are technically just &#8216;overweight&#8217;) to go shirtless in public. Still, there are more men who have less &#8216;publicly fat and semi nude&#8217; issues then women. At 350 Lbs. and with a BMI in the high 40&#8242;s, I&#8217;ll go shirtless at a friends pool OR at the public beach without hesitation. Doesn&#8217;t mean I&#8217;m not aware of the stares, the comments from children or, the teens who might suddenly stop laughing when I happen to look in their direction. Mainly what it means is that I HATE wearing wet cloths more than I&#8217;m worried about someone being disgusted by how I look. I guess I&#8217;m just defiantly fat like that. Defiantly fat but not above hypocrisy. I&#8217;m also one of those who will marinate in his own juices before subjecting people on the field at a pick-up football game to the sight of my naked torso in action. And maybe that has more to do with being on the traumatic side of several shirts vs. skins episodes in grade school.  So, yes, men do have body issues. More and more it seems with each generation, but far less so than women. However, I&#8217;m hoping that this fat serves to ADD to the dynamic of Fat Acceptance rather than it becoming a reason to divide and weaken it.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Men have the exact same insecurities as women, it&#039;s just that they deal with them in different ways, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Men have the exact same insecurities as women, it&#8217;s just that they deal with them in different ways, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, I&#039;m insecure about my body shape and size. I&#039;m not tall, I was bald by age 20 or so, and last year I was 40 pounds overweight. Even having lost nearly 30 pounds, I&#039;m still deeply in debt and haven&#039;t been in a fulfilling relationship in years.

That&#039;s where perhaps it&#039;s different for me, as a man: it&#039;s mostly the debt and lack of romantic fulfillment that hurt my perception of my appeal to women -- not my body -- yet my disgust is nevertheless overwhelmingly with my face, waist, arms, etc. I&#039;m in debt and alone, therefore I MUST be thin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, I&#8217;m insecure about my body shape and size. I&#8217;m not tall, I was bald by age 20 or so, and last year I was 40 pounds overweight. Even having lost nearly 30 pounds, I&#8217;m still deeply in debt and haven&#8217;t been in a fulfilling relationship in years.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s where perhaps it&#8217;s different for me, as a man: it&#8217;s mostly the debt and lack of romantic fulfillment that hurt my perception of my appeal to women &#8212; not my body &#8212; yet my disgust is nevertheless overwhelmingly with my face, waist, arms, etc. I&#8217;m in debt and alone, therefore I MUST be thin.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristin, you need to start telling those doctors it&#039;s not the 1950&#039;s anymore. Women are allowed to stay out of the kitchen, and not be the sole provider for their family&#039;s meals anymore. Although I&#039;m sure they&#039;d probably just say that&#039;s the problem.

Maybe if they said it was the problem, then you could ask &quot;Is your concern really my husband&#039;s health, or your seeking to keep women in the kitchen barefoot and pregnant?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristin, you need to start telling those doctors it&#8217;s not the 1950&#8242;s anymore. Women are allowed to stay out of the kitchen, and not be the sole provider for their family&#8217;s meals anymore. Although I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;d probably just say that&#8217;s the problem.</p>
<p>Maybe if they said it was the problem, then you could ask &#8220;Is your concern really my husband&#8217;s health, or your seeking to keep women in the kitchen barefoot and pregnant?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Healthy Hollywood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Healthy Hollywood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great topic!  As a nutritionist, I can tell you that I have so many men that come to me daily concerned about gaining weight.  Their biggest fear?  That it ages them and they won&#039;t look as attractive to their spouse or their potential mates.  Just when you thought it was just a crazy thing that only we women did, the men start stumbling out of the shadows.  I&#039;ve treated male bulimics and anorexics and they can sometimes be harder on themselves than the women are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great topic!  As a nutritionist, I can tell you that I have so many men that come to me daily concerned about gaining weight.  Their biggest fear?  That it ages them and they won&#8217;t look as attractive to their spouse or their potential mates.  Just when you thought it was just a crazy thing that only we women did, the men start stumbling out of the shadows.  I&#8217;ve treated male bulimics and anorexics and they can sometimes be harder on themselves than the women are.</p>
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		<title>By: K</title>
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		<dc:creator>K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beth, I think I am going to borrow your technique!

Soft five-pound objects, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beth, I think I am going to borrow your technique!</p>
<p>Soft five-pound objects, though.</p>
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