Vicious Fat Hate From Anthony Bourdain And Ted Nugent
It’s literally almost impossible to find the most offensive quote in this transcript of a conversation between Ted Nugent and Anthony Bourdain on Bourdain’s show No Reservations. Here’s Nugent:
I know there are people who are mentally deranged that just don’t know better, and they do need help, but 99 percent of the sperm whales walking the streets of this country, they got up in the morning and they go, “I’m fatter than a [expletive deleted] pig, and here’s a list of things that I should not do and should not eat, and I’m doing all of them today, again.”
Here’s Bourdain:
I think you should pay more. If you’re leaking over into my seat … that I paid full price for, you know what, you’re paying for half my seat, Jumbo, and by the way, don’t block my [expletive deleted] exit door, because I’m coming right through you.
They also suggest that the solution to this problem is to shame fat people at school, work, and home and tell them not to eat whatever it is they’re eating. Wow, great idea! This is the face of fat hate, my friends; this is why our voices are important.
Thanks to Annie for the link!
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It looks like the link is broken… is there another source for this transcript?
Nugent? Yeah, he’s got a lot of misplaced anger, and not just at fat people. Lordy.
But… in that one, isolated quote from Bourdain? (since I can’t see the rest of what he said) His choice of words isn’t great, but he does have a point – I think that if you need to use more than your own seat, then you should buy two. I don’t think that people have the right to encroach on other people’s space, regardless of size.
Perhaps if I saw the rest of the conversation I could get a better perspective on this.
Lord have mercy. Why so angry at folks who are doing nothing to you but existing, gentlemen? Are you that greedy with oxygen? How are these folks harming you? Are folks of a different skin tone harming you? Are disabled people harming you? Why not vent your spleen on those who are real societal offenders, like pedophiles, abusers of the elderly, politicians who give no-bid contracts to their friends?
And Mr. Nugent, sadly, I must admit that I’ve made similar observations about you — at least along the lines of, “Good Lord, that man got up and looked in the mirror and said, ‘Yeah, this works,’ and walked out the door like that.” So I guess I’m as guilty as you. Sorry.
You know, I don’t think I want dietary advice from the man who wrote “Kill It and Grill It.”
And I really believe that this is the kind of celebrity we need to not support, don’t watch or tivo their shows etc.
Not just fat hate, but any kind of hate. WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?!
So anytime I hear of any celebrity that acts like this, they are immediately off my list (not that I cared for either of them before hand.)
His choice of words isn’t great, but he does have a point – I think that if you need to use more than your own seat, then you should buy two. I don’t think that people have the right to encroach on other people’s space, regardless of size.
Riiiight. Because people should diet to get down to a small enough size for an airplane seat, rather than airlines putting in seats big enough to hold full size people. That makes total sense.
You know, I don’t think I want dietary advice from the man who wrote “Kill It and Grill It.”
Heeeeee. I concur.
Anthony Bourdain is a dickhead and always will be, the end. He’s one of those chefs who is all about control, and he won’t stop thinking that fat people have “no control.” But I do I feel bad for someone who has made food his business but has this weird, tortured relationship with enjoyment of it.
I think that’s why I liked the last winner of Top Chef — Stephanie. She said in one of the episodes that to her, good food was a part of a good life, and that her idea of perfection was a table full of good food, good wine, and good friends — relaxing and enjoying themselves. And you got from her personality that seh actually believed this. This is also why The Barefoot Contessa is so much fun to watch. She’s always making something wonderful, and it’s always a part of some small celebration of her friends and family.
This coming from Bourdain who is an ADAMANT smoker and drinker and will not apologize for either of those activities. How big of a hypocrite is he? His smoking and drinking are his personal business but I’m a problem of the world because I’m fat? And he eats things that aren’t good for you either, but its ok because he’s thin? what a douchebag
This makes me upset that I actually bought one of his books, now I’m tossing it out into the garbage.
Meh. Bourdain is paid, as far as I can tell, to be an asshole, a professional voice for all the viewers who would like to be one but can’t get away with it. Ted Nugent doesn’t even need paying: he’s one for free. Yeah, there are assholes in the world. I’m kind of inclined to shrug here.
What horrified me most about the whole clip was the absolute authority with which they both spoke. I guess any sort of supremacist tends to speak with the same tone, but it was really unsettling. And a little scary.
Yes, Bourdain is a smoker complaining about other people costing him money. And a former heroin addict. So, thanks for the health/self-control lessons. He’s been on my list for his hatred of vegetarians and vegans.
It seems the narrow minded and angry always need to find SOMEONE to be pointing fingers at. Perhaps they hope only to detract from their own (many) flaws?
rather than airlines putting in seats big enough to hold full size people
Sure, they could do that. And then they’d all go out of business because there wouldn’t be enough paying customers on each flight (or they’d have to charge so much, most people wouldn’t be able to afford it). When you have characteristics that are outside the norm, you can’t demand the world change for you. It just isn’t economically or practically feasible. I have celiac disease, but you don’t see me going around demanding restaurants all go gluten-free.
And Bourdain quit smoking. Time to stop using that as an argument.
Oh, that just makes me sad because I love Bourdain when he’s on Top Chef.
When you have characteristics that are outside the norm, you can’t demand the world change for you.
Um…if the stats are to be believed, fat people are the majority. And will they also be asking the tall guy in front of me to pay for two seats because head is practically in my lap when he puts his seat back?
Um…if the stats are to be believed, fat people are the majority.
Not fat people who can’t fit in airplane seats. Most overweight people can still fit. The people who can’t are a minority.
And will they also be asking the tall guy in front of me to pay for two seats because head is practically in my lap when he puts his seat back?
They should. I absolutely think people should not be allowed to put their seats back unless the person behind them is okay with it.
And in fact, many airlines (most? all?) do now charge extra for exit row seats with more legroom.
Nobody fits in airplane seats. Nobody. I paid attention the last time I was on a plane, and apart from some very small people and some CHILDREN, there wasn’t a person on that plane whose shoulders fit within the width of their seat. Not one.
Just to clarify about the seat issue…Bourdain didn’t mean just airplane seats, but he specifically said (if I recall correctly) seats on buses or subways, as well. So fat people should pay more for seats that they may not even get to sit on.
My own take on airplane seats…I wouldn’t mind paying more, if they would offer me a seat my size (and not 2 seats). But they don’t, so screw ’em!
The quote that you chose from Nugent was what troubled me most about this little exchange between the two…
Sure, they could do that. And then they’d all go out of business because there wouldn’t be enough paying customers on each flight (or they’d have to charge so much, most people wouldn’t be able to afford it). When you have characteristics that are outside the norm, you can’t demand the world change for you. It just isn’t economically or practically feasible. I have celiac disease, but you don’t see me going around demanding restaurants all go gluten-free.
Hey, wouldn’t the world be a better place, though, if instead of telling anyone who’s not “the norm” to conform (or fuck off), we tried to make more stuff more accessible to more people?
I’m not saying airlines should make every seat a barca-lounger….I’m saying it would be nice if they somehow grokked that their paying customers were people and not cargo. And you know what? I think it would be great if more restaurants offered gluten-free meals. But then maybe that’s because I’m a starry-eyed idealist who thinks people ought to trump profit, and everything shouldn’t be boiled down to the lowest common denominator.
Did they change the size of airplane seats in the past 2 years or something? Even at 120 or so odd pounds over my ‘normal’ weight, I fit in them just fine.
“I’m a starry-eyed idealist who thinks people ought to trump profit, and everything shouldn’t be boiled down to the lowest common denominator.”
Me too, Tari – me too. It just doesn’t seem that difficult to grok (how I love that you used that word!!!)
Same old shit, just a different day. However, Ted Nugent is an ass about anything. I’m surprised he hasn’t jumped on the “let’s hate fat people” trend sooner.
“This coming from Bourdain who is an ADAMANT smoker and drinker and will not apologize for either of those activities. How big of a hypocrite is he? His smoking and drinking are his personal business but I’m a problem of the world because I’m fat?” – Stella
Here’s my answer to this. MY eating of ice cream does not make you gain weight. Your smoking gets ME second-hand smoke related cancer. YOUR drinking and driving gets me dead.
Meh, just two more world class jackasses worthy of being ignored.
I think you have to realize the economic situation the airlines are in. I work in Travel. It’s not realistic for airlines to put in bigger seats to accommodate larger passengers. They are already losing money on many flights.
First Alton Brown, now Anthony Bourdain?! Crap. Another Food Network show to cross off my list. What asshats.
Alton Brown and Anthony Bourdain piss me off, since they are both food pimps who make their very substantial livings off the fact that this country is food-obsessed, and yet they feel free to piss all over their audiences.
And has been pointed out above, Bourdain is a former junkie, heavy drinker, heavy smoker, and has publicly mentioned his high cholesterol, so: Hello, kettle, this is pot. You’re black.
Nooge is just a neanderthal. I respect his opinions about as much as I do those of his good friend and neighbor George Bush.
“Nobody fits in airplane seats. Nobody. I paid attention the last time I was on a plane, and apart from some very small people and some CHILDREN, there wasn’t a person on that plane whose shoulders fit within the width of their seat. Not one.”- O.C.
I don’t know what airline you’re flying but I am no twiggy, yet I fit comfortably in an airplane seat. So do all my brothers. All my friends. My parents. And my aunts, uncles, cousins, and grandparents. I too paid attention the last time I flew and With a few exceptions everyone fit in those airplane seats.
I saw this on the F-Word. It’s disgusting.
I already hated Bourdain, and I didn’t know anything about Nugent (how did I miss his right-wing assyness all this time?). And now they can both suck it equally.
I love how Bourdain is so worried about teh fattyz health while he’s, like, chain-smoking.
Iris, on August 15th, 2008 at 10:57 pm Said:
First Alton Brown, now Anthony Bourdain?! Crap. Another Food Network show to cross off my list. What asshats.
Oh no what did Alton Brown say? He was my favorite, I don’t want him to be a fat bigot too.
“Nooge is just a neanderthal.”
Whyme63, that is an insult to neanderthals everywhere!
When you have characteristics that are outside the norm, you can’t demand the world change for you.
I hate to break this to ya, but abnormal people ARE a part of the world.
I’m a starry-eyed idealist who thinks people ought to trump profit, and everything shouldn’t be boiled down to the lowest common denominator.
The world would be a better place if more people had such an attitude : )
Stella, you can read about Alton Brown’s hating here.
Well, Ted Nugent is mean about a lot of things (you should hear what he says about vegetarians), but this takes the cake.
This is the way that all of America thinks at different levels, and I think that it’s just sad. People have tough enough lives without constantly being made fun of because their weight is not within “the norm”.
damnit, damnit, damnit!
I realize that anyone that tries to make some sort of stand/boycott/demonstration has to give up something but I freakin LOVE “no reservations”. I’m so angry with his hatred I could puke.
Anthony Bourdain doesn’t strike me as an intolerant person. I watch his show regularly and he travels the world to meet and talk to people about their food and culture. On his show, I’ve never seen him be rude to anyone and he makes substantial effort to experience and appreciate local culture everywhere he goes.
It’s disappointing, because both of these men are right in the limelight, for one reason or another. You’d think people would want to engender a world where people were free to be who they want to be – especially people like these two, both of whom are part of communities with huge political causes.
Sad indeed.
I’m sorry I think they both have points; they were just really shitty about delivering them
I would just sit on Bourdain instead of just taking up half of his seat. Then, we couldn’t hear anything he has to say. Now, go chain smoke your ciggies Tony and STFU! tee hee hee
As for Nugent…ewwwwww….your hair is icky….you stink….and you’re Republican…..ewwwwwwwww :D
who’s judgemental now
Avery, the last time I flew Continental I made a point to look down the aisle, and to look in between the seats along my side of the plane. Looking down the aisle I saw almost every single person leaning FAR into the aisle, because otherwise their shoulders would hit the person in the middle seat. Looking in between the seats I saw no empty space, because the shoulders of the people in the middle seats were overlapping the edges of the seats. It didn’t matter if these were men or women. The only reason that people THINK they fit in these seats is because the person in the window seat is smushing themself into the wall of the plane, the person on the aisle is leaning way out, and the person in the middle is trying to fold themself into oragami. Yet people don’t recognize this, and decide to blame the fat people, and only the fat people for space problems on planes. From what I saw it wasn’t just fat hips that don’t fit in a seat, it’s normally sized shoulders. Look around the next time you fly and you’ll see what I mean.
Yeah.
See, I’m sorry, but if unless there is a medical/hormonal/ED involved, EVRY DAY you make a choice: to contribute to being overweight and make the same poor choices all over again, or change the choices you make and do something about it. IT IS A CHOICE. Yes, choosing to continue on with bad habits and being overweight is much, mcuh easier than changing things and doing something about it, but its still a choice you make each day. To people who make the right choices every day and exercise no matter how hard it is for them that day, well, excuse them for not pitying the obese. Everyone makes thier bed to a degree.
Again, if it is something MEDICAL, completely different story
So sayeth the wise mkjjh. Now why don’t you really tell us something that doesn’t sound so PREACHY and JUDGMENTAL?
Are you part of the problem or part of the solution, or just a flame thrower, mkjjh?
EVRY DAY you make a choice
I make the choice to ignore you. I look forward to the day when trolls come up with a new argument…..
“evry” day?
Gee, two of the most lame-assed people on the planet are dissing fat folks? How un-surprising.
Yeah, I don’t think either one of them should be judging people based on their LOOKS.
So, does this mean that the asshat who’s hogging the armrest on my next flight has to pay for two seats? What about the guy in front of me who pushes his seatback into my lap? Or the woman on the other side who hasn’t bathed in 6 days and keeps sticking her pits in my face?
And mkjjh? I exercise every day. I’m not actually obese. I make healthy choices. And I’d MUCH rather hang out with a fat person than someone like you.
BTW, I have two kids with Autism. They are, I guess, “abnormal.” Does that mean they have to be put away in an institution so that our delicate eyes and ears won’t be offended by them? Should I “shame” them into being “normal?” Over my cold, dead, rotting body!
Fat does not equal immoral. Thin does not make you a good person. In fact, many of the meanest, most wretched people I know are, you guessed it, THIN. Does thinness cause meanness? I don’t know. It can cause feelings of superiority, just as wealth can.
Snobbery is snobbery, even when it comes wrapped in phony concern for someone’s health. And meanness is meanness, no matter whom it’s directed at.
O.C. says, “Looking down the aisle I saw almost every single person leaning FAR into the aisle, because otherwise their shoulders would hit the person in the middle seat.”
Oh, come on. You exaggerated to make a point, you were shot down, move on with it. Many, many people fly all the time and what you’re saying here simply doesn’t make sense. Most people — even larger ones — fit just fine into airplane seats. Some of us fly many times a year and notice these things. Leaning FAR into the aisle would mean, for example, that the beverage carts couldn’t go by…
And Nicole says, “And will they also be asking the tall guy in front of me to pay for two seats because head is practically in my lap when he puts his seat back?”
Well, I personally wouldn’t complain if no airline seats were able to recline. Still, I’ll freely admit that they all recline evenly, and the degree of recline has nothing whatsoever to do with the body of the person sitting in them.
Richard, were you on my plane? I have no need to exaggerate. I’m telling you what I saw. And yes, people had to scrunch up to let the beverage cart go by.
I have not been “shot down” anymore than if I’d said the sky was blue, and was answered by someone claiming it’s red. Believe what you want to. That’s not my problem.
obviously are not allowed to have an opinion here without being ripped apart if someone does not agree…..
Richard–
I frequently get clipped in the arm or shoulder if the beverage cart I’m on the aisle and the beverage cart is coming up from behind.
And my last flight was spent with a very tall man’s head in my face, because his head and neck extended past the top of his reclined seat. He came very close to using my rack for a pillow, actually.