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	<title>Comments on: Fat Princess</title>
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	<description>We&#039;re bringing chubby back.</description>
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		<title>By: LM</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2008/07/29/fat-princess/comment-page-1/#comment-12734</link>
		<dc:creator>LM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, I think people are reading into this too much. I don&#039;t hate fat people, and I&#039;m a girl so I come from the female gamer perspective. Honestly, I find it refreshing that a game doesn&#039;t feel the need to be full of half-naked VC models for people to want to play it. And maybe you&#039;re looking at it all wrong; maybe the message of the game is, a princess can stuff her face and get as fat as she wants and men will still come in roves to carry her off. :P
Joking aside, you can try to make this into something it&#039;s not, or you can take it for what it is: a silly capture the flag game. It uses established stereotypical settings so it doesn&#039;t need to establish a story, but puts a twist on it to make it more interesting. You can get offended about a lot of things; you can get offended that shadow the hedgehog was black, and they gave him a gun (though personally I&#039;m more offended at how bad the game was), you can get offended at all the boob action in God of War, you can get offended at how all the players in this game are depicted as stupid enough to throw themselves into combat and get maimed and torn to pieces a million times over trying to steal a princess. Or, you can give it a rest and stop looking for something that isn&#039;t there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, I think people are reading into this too much. I don&#8217;t hate fat people, and I&#8217;m a girl so I come from the female gamer perspective. Honestly, I find it refreshing that a game doesn&#8217;t feel the need to be full of half-naked VC models for people to want to play it. And maybe you&#8217;re looking at it all wrong; maybe the message of the game is, a princess can stuff her face and get as fat as she wants and men will still come in roves to carry her off. :P<br />
Joking aside, you can try to make this into something it&#8217;s not, or you can take it for what it is: a silly capture the flag game. It uses established stereotypical settings so it doesn&#8217;t need to establish a story, but puts a twist on it to make it more interesting. You can get offended about a lot of things; you can get offended that shadow the hedgehog was black, and they gave him a gun (though personally I&#8217;m more offended at how bad the game was), you can get offended at all the boob action in God of War, you can get offended at how all the players in this game are depicted as stupid enough to throw themselves into combat and get maimed and torn to pieces a million times over trying to steal a princess. Or, you can give it a rest and stop looking for something that isn&#8217;t there.</p>
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		<title>By: CH</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2008/07/29/fat-princess/comment-page-1/#comment-12727</link>
		<dc:creator>CH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being upset at this game is far more offensive than the game itself.  If you want to pretend like eating cake doesn&#039;t make one larger, and harder to carry, fine.  That is not the point of the game, though, and it is really a shame since it actually is a game of *tolerance*.  I suppose you could have a person keep feeding the princesses&#039; ego, until it bloats out of control and she has a hissy fit about a video game.  Hey, wait a minute...

OK, now who really believes that this game will have any kind of an affect on most peoples perceptions of obesity?  OK, now who thinks there are any video games that exist that do not rely on stereotypes of some kind?  Sheesh.  BTW I am not a  hater.  fill in the blank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being upset at this game is far more offensive than the game itself.  If you want to pretend like eating cake doesn&#8217;t make one larger, and harder to carry, fine.  That is not the point of the game, though, and it is really a shame since it actually is a game of *tolerance*.  I suppose you could have a person keep feeding the princesses&#8217; ego, until it bloats out of control and she has a hissy fit about a video game.  Hey, wait a minute&#8230;</p>
<p>OK, now who really believes that this game will have any kind of an affect on most peoples perceptions of obesity?  OK, now who thinks there are any video games that exist that do not rely on stereotypes of some kind?  Sheesh.  BTW I am not a  hater.  fill in the blank.</p>
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		<title>By: CH</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2008/07/29/fat-princess/comment-page-1/#comment-12717</link>
		<dc:creator>CH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 02:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a game, not a treatise on the psychology and sociology of obesity.</description>
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		<title>By: Godless Heathen</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2008/07/29/fat-princess/comment-page-1/#comment-12712</link>
		<dc:creator>Godless Heathen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s such a shame, because the art for the fat princess is just adorable.  She&#039;s so cute!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s such a shame, because the art for the fat princess is just adorable.  She&#8217;s so cute!</p>
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		<title>By: SL</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2008/07/29/fat-princess/comment-page-1/#comment-12723</link>
		<dc:creator>SL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But are all the guys in &quot;Duel Love&quot; skinny? I want to towel off some REAL men, not some bony athlete. They should have some big cuddly guys!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But are all the guys in &#8220;Duel Love&#8221; skinny? I want to towel off some REAL men, not some bony athlete. They should have some big cuddly guys!</p>
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		<title>By: Gamer Girl</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2008/07/29/fat-princess/comment-page-1/#comment-12722</link>
		<dc:creator>Gamer Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;SHOW SOME SKIN, GUYS. SRYSLY.&lt;/i&gt;

Try looking for a Japanese game called &quot;Duel Love&quot; where you get to towel the sweaty bodies of teenage boy athletes :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>SHOW SOME SKIN, GUYS. SRYSLY.</i></p>
<p>Try looking for a Japanese game called &#8220;Duel Love&#8221; where you get to towel the sweaty bodies of teenage boy athletes :)</p>
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		<title>By: SugarLeigh</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2008/07/29/fat-princess/comment-page-1/#comment-12728</link>
		<dc:creator>SugarLeigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cute Bruiser-- LOL! You&#039;re right, but you know... I mean, between gals and gay/bi dudes, I think we have straight male gamers outnumbered... there&#039;s only one solution... it&#039;s time to start infiltrating the actual development of games at all levels!

I know of a couple of hardcore gamers who would be mad at me for saying something like that, is the sad thing. They secretly think of gaming as some sort of magical boys club where they can hang out and it&#039;s all about straight guys, and they can stay away from people who terrify them, like gays and women and sympathizers of gays and women. They need to wise up, so hard. Seriously, if men want an &quot;all straight dudes, all the time&quot; space, they can either get a damn clubhouse and put a &quot;no girls allowed&quot; sign on it, or do what all the other bigots do and join the KKK. Either way they can stay out of an entertainment form meant for ALL to enjoy, and which I have been since I was little so they can stuff it about how they started on the original NES, because shit, so did everybody.

Not that it ever frustrates me or makes me feel bitter, or anything, or that girl gamers ever get comments if they dare to let it be known they game (cough except all the time cough).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cute Bruiser&#8211; LOL! You&#8217;re right, but you know&#8230; I mean, between gals and gay/bi dudes, I think we have straight male gamers outnumbered&#8230; there&#8217;s only one solution&#8230; it&#8217;s time to start infiltrating the actual development of games at all levels!</p>
<p>I know of a couple of hardcore gamers who would be mad at me for saying something like that, is the sad thing. They secretly think of gaming as some sort of magical boys club where they can hang out and it&#8217;s all about straight guys, and they can stay away from people who terrify them, like gays and women and sympathizers of gays and women. They need to wise up, so hard. Seriously, if men want an &#8220;all straight dudes, all the time&#8221; space, they can either get a damn clubhouse and put a &#8220;no girls allowed&#8221; sign on it, or do what all the other bigots do and join the KKK. Either way they can stay out of an entertainment form meant for ALL to enjoy, and which I have been since I was little so they can stuff it about how they started on the original NES, because shit, so did everybody.</p>
<p>Not that it ever frustrates me or makes me feel bitter, or anything, or that girl gamers ever get comments if they dare to let it be known they game (cough except all the time cough).</p>
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		<title>By: Cute Bruiser</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2008/07/29/fat-princess/comment-page-1/#comment-12715</link>
		<dc:creator>Cute Bruiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 06:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@SugarLeigh: Because, as you said, the games are geared toward men and no &quot;straight&quot; guy would want to be caught playing a game full of lady oriented eye candy. All his dude friends would call him gay!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@SugarLeigh: Because, as you said, the games are geared toward men and no &#8220;straight&#8221; guy would want to be caught playing a game full of lady oriented eye candy. All his dude friends would call him gay!</p>
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		<title>By: SugarLeigh</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2008/07/29/fat-princess/comment-page-1/#comment-12724</link>
		<dc:creator>SugarLeigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 03:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UGH. You know, it is really starting to get to me that the gaming community and companies that put games out there are acknowledging (begrudgingly) that it&#039;s not a purely male pastime and there are ever-increasing numbers of (gasp!) ladies who love them some video game action just as much as the fellows... and yet they still refuse to lift a finger to pander to this demographic, though they go nuts doing so for men.

For example, from a strictly visual standpoint, I can tell you that even games which are otherwise gender-neutral are made for men and men alone. World of Warcraft is completely fair to both sexes when it comes to power, ability, and the socio-political aspects of the game&#039;s world. But the characters? And their outfits and gear? Holy shit, forget it.

If gaming companies want to design their games so that the players are looking at eye-candy the whole time (because of course that adds to the experience of battling to the death somehow), I fully support their right and desire to do so... just, for goodness sakes, could the people who are attracted to MEN have something to look at too?

Put a piece of armor on a male character in that game, and it covers him from head to toe. Put that SAME piece of armor on a female character, and it looks like a thong bikini. And the character designs themselves... the male characters have rough, unattractive facial features and blocky, un-balanced looking hulk bodies (think a poorly made Ken doll). The females? All but the dwarves and gnomes are thin, svelte, and leggy (yet wielding hammers as big as they are with their stick arms and running with them on spindly legs). The dwarves are stocky but with an hourglass figure. And even the tiny gnome women, who are too squat to have much of a discernible figure, have enormous breasts relative to their size.

It&#039;s ridiculous. Console games aren&#039;t any better. Monster Hunter Freedom II has been kidnapping my attention for some time now, and though the male and female characters are equal in attractiveness without their gear, there&#039;s the same problem with clothing them, in which men must cover every bit of skin possible whilst the girls show every bit of skin possible. How it is that I can take down a giant, scaly, fanged beast with absolutely nothing covering my legs, when my boyfriend&#039;s character needs giant jointed shields on his, astounds me with its lack of logic.

To sum it up: if I have to fight half-naked so fellows can stare at my pixellated ass, the least they can do is also fight half-naked, so I can stare at THEIR pixel-asses. SHEESH.

I DO NOT GET WHY THAT IS HARD TO GRASP. I MEAN, IF OBJECTIFICATION IS SUCH A GREAT THING FOR US WIMMINFOLK, WHY ARE MENZ NOT JUMPING RIGHT ON THAT BANDWAGON FOR US? SHOW SOME SKIN, GUYS. SRYSLY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UGH. You know, it is really starting to get to me that the gaming community and companies that put games out there are acknowledging (begrudgingly) that it&#8217;s not a purely male pastime and there are ever-increasing numbers of (gasp!) ladies who love them some video game action just as much as the fellows&#8230; and yet they still refuse to lift a finger to pander to this demographic, though they go nuts doing so for men.</p>
<p>For example, from a strictly visual standpoint, I can tell you that even games which are otherwise gender-neutral are made for men and men alone. World of Warcraft is completely fair to both sexes when it comes to power, ability, and the socio-political aspects of the game&#8217;s world. But the characters? And their outfits and gear? Holy shit, forget it.</p>
<p>If gaming companies want to design their games so that the players are looking at eye-candy the whole time (because of course that adds to the experience of battling to the death somehow), I fully support their right and desire to do so&#8230; just, for goodness sakes, could the people who are attracted to MEN have something to look at too?</p>
<p>Put a piece of armor on a male character in that game, and it covers him from head to toe. Put that SAME piece of armor on a female character, and it looks like a thong bikini. And the character designs themselves&#8230; the male characters have rough, unattractive facial features and blocky, un-balanced looking hulk bodies (think a poorly made Ken doll). The females? All but the dwarves and gnomes are thin, svelte, and leggy (yet wielding hammers as big as they are with their stick arms and running with them on spindly legs). The dwarves are stocky but with an hourglass figure. And even the tiny gnome women, who are too squat to have much of a discernible figure, have enormous breasts relative to their size.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s ridiculous. Console games aren&#8217;t any better. Monster Hunter Freedom II has been kidnapping my attention for some time now, and though the male and female characters are equal in attractiveness without their gear, there&#8217;s the same problem with clothing them, in which men must cover every bit of skin possible whilst the girls show every bit of skin possible. How it is that I can take down a giant, scaly, fanged beast with absolutely nothing covering my legs, when my boyfriend&#8217;s character needs giant jointed shields on his, astounds me with its lack of logic.</p>
<p>To sum it up: if I have to fight half-naked so fellows can stare at my pixellated ass, the least they can do is also fight half-naked, so I can stare at THEIR pixel-asses. SHEESH.</p>
<p>I DO NOT GET WHY THAT IS HARD TO GRASP. I MEAN, IF OBJECTIFICATION IS SUCH A GREAT THING FOR US WIMMINFOLK, WHY ARE MENZ NOT JUMPING RIGHT ON THAT BANDWAGON FOR US? SHOW SOME SKIN, GUYS. SRYSLY.</p>
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		<title>By: Intellectualfeminist</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2008/07/29/fat-princess/comment-page-1/#comment-12721</link>
		<dc:creator>Intellectualfeminist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It really upset me that technology that is supposed to be progressive and forward thinking relies on such old, worn out, misogynistic story lines. It takes no imagination to come up with something like this and all it does is contribute to society becoming desensitized to treatment that is truly horrible and disgusting.

What is worse is how complacent people have become to blatantly discriminatory things such as this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really upset me that technology that is supposed to be progressive and forward thinking relies on such old, worn out, misogynistic story lines. It takes no imagination to come up with something like this and all it does is contribute to society becoming desensitized to treatment that is truly horrible and disgusting.</p>
<p>What is worse is how complacent people have become to blatantly discriminatory things such as this one.</p>
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