Actually, for some people that is true. For others, its total BS. I – like quite a few other people I know – gained a bunch of weight when I stopped doing a lot of exercise and started eating more (for various reasons). When I started eating less (not starvation, just less) and exercising more (not insanely, just 5-6 hours a week) I lost weight, gained muscle, and incidentally stopped having a bunch of weight-related problems (joints, etc), also like many other folks.

So while may be some folk with medical issues, to whom “calories in – calories out” doesn’t seem to apply… there are in fact many other people to whom basic thermodynamics does in fact work. I’m not trying to say that lifestyle changes like this are easy or necessarily convenient, just possible (and basic bio-chemistry as well).

PLEASE NOTE: I don’t care if you’re fat, skinny, “normal,” or whatever. I was a good person when I was heavy, I like to think I’m still a good person now that I’m fit. I’d probably be a good person if I regained my weight, too. I’m sure that you’re a good person as well. This kind of value judgment has absolutely nothing to do with any of the statements I made above.

I do, however, wish you and everyone else in the FA community luck in your pursuit. It would be a much better world if no one discriminated against anyone for anything.

Perhaps you need to spend some more time around the community, if you don’t know what issues are triggering yet.

I also never said that I think it’s bad to not always eat healthy or sit around from time to time. I do it often, actually. I eat cheesecake and sit around playing Age of Conan quite often.

I’m not really sure what sort of hate rhetoric you think I was spouting, as I was only talking about my own experience.

I never gave you a ‘it’s for your health’ lecture, so I’m not sure where you got that from. I’m also not sure what makes you think I hate fat people. I don’t hate fat people and I don’t hate my fat self.

“I hope in the future you can understand that SIZE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW YOU EAT OR EXERCISE! I can’t belive you actually decided to troll that old statement out again. ”

Again, I was only speaking about my own personal experience of how *I* got fat. I think it’s totally possible to be fat and healthy,and a lot of fat people are just fine and in fine health, but I also know that I, personally, am not healthy right now.

I’m not sure where you got that I was attributing self-hate to people who are brave enough to not starve themselves or accept societies standard of beauty. I never said that you or any other overweight person was hating themselves.

As for 5 years olds being told how to watch their calories was an example of healthy behavior…well…you kind of pulled that out of nowhere. I never said I think kids should be shamed or told to watch calories or any other such thing.

I didn’t come here to be “respected” for being upset at being called names in high school. I came here because I don’t believe that anyone should tell any fat person what to do or how to do it, but that I also don’t believe that if I try to change something about myself, it’s self-hatred. I’m not here to convince anyone of that either, because I fully believe that if that’s self-hate to you, then that’s your opinion and your entitled to it.

So yeah…if you think I’m just another troll, thats fine. I just don’t think it’s fair of you to put words in my mouth or to claim I’ve said something that I didn’t say.

I think you read my post and attributed a tone to it that wasn’t intended. My post wasn’t meant to sound angry, flippant or anything other than calm. Sorry if I hit some kind of nerve. It wasn’t my intent.

It seems that because you’ve been frustrated that we haven’t welcomed you with open arms here, now you’re trying to psudeo-lash out at us, out of anger.

It’s not self-hate to start eating more healthfully and exercise. Neither is it self-hate to not eat as healthfully as you should all the time, or perhaps God forbid, allow yourself to sit on your ass once in awhile.

Stating hate rehtoric isn’t the best way to get in with the fat acceptance community. I’m sorry we didn’t hold your hand and cry with you cause someone called you a bad name. I’m sorry, that you are unable to realize that whatever you’ve experienced is only 1% of the constant hatred fat people are exposed to every single day.

And now you’re giving us the, “But it’s for your health..” lecture, like we’re all dumb little babies who just can’t figure out that we need to exercise or eat right. Yeah, whatever hope you had personally, for being accepted by our community you’ve just ruined.

And it’s not because you’re thin, it’s because you’ve exhibited that you do belive in hating fat people. Including hating yourself, otherwise you wouldn’t have bothered to write your hate tirade here.

I hope in the future you can understand that SIZE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW YOU EAT OR EXERCISE! I can’t belive you actually decided to troll that old statement out again. You know what’s disgusting about it, you don’t know what self-hate is. If you did, you wouldn’t so flippantly attribute it to people who are BRAVE enough, not to hate themselves. People who are BRAVE enough not to hate themselves because society insists they should, because they’re not STARVING THEMSELVES to meet a ARBITRARY IDEA OF BEAUTY.

I don’t know how long you’ve been fat, but clearly you haven’t been fat long enough to have an appreciation of the COURAGE AND STRENGTH it takes not to beat one’s self up, despite thousands of claims that if someone is fat they should beat themselves up.

You should watch the HBO documentary THIN, about girls who are in an eating disorder clinic. They have it for rent on Netflix now. Perhaps you might understand more what we’re fighting here. Unless, you think a 5 year old being told how to watch calories and exercise at the expense of their childhood, is an example of healthy behaviour.

Sorry Mo Pie, just I’m so angry that someone could be so goddamned stupid, to think that they’re going to be respected at all by throwing out fat bingo remarks. Cause they’re upset that they were called a name in high school. I just, it makes me want to *headdesk*

As for dieting…I know I’m going to get hit with a fat-hate bingo point for saying this, but while I don’t believe in dieting, I do believe in healthy lifestyle change and I really don’t believe that a person who is trying to live healthy is not accepting of their body. I love myself and my body, and therefore, it’s that self-love that prompts me to desire to only put healthy things in my mouth, and to move my body because it feels good. If weightloss results, fine. If not, fine.

As a person who was skinny through high school but who is overweight now, I can tell you that I became overweight due to three things. 1) birth control pills. 2) anti-depressants, and 3) eating junk food all the time.

Now, obviously that isn’t the case for everyone who is overweight. If an individual is overweight and healthy, fine. But for me personally, I’m overweight because I ate too much food that wasn’t healthy. And it isn’t self-hate to start eating more healthfully and to exercise.

FA lite, as I’ve heard it be referred to, means a fat acceptance site that allows talk of dieting as well. Alot of other FA people don’t like that, cause if you’re dieting it’s presumed you aren’t accepting your body as is.

We try our best to make the movement inclusive to thin people, the problem is that we feel a bit disgruntled when someone thin suggests they have delt with the same level of discrimination that fat people have. It’s like a White person telling a Black person how they’ve delt with so much reverse discrimination.

I guess I just expected more from a blog where the writer was considered by some to be more moderate and FA lite compared to other FA blogs.

This whole thing really pisses me off. I’ve never, ever, made fun of an overweight person, and yet, some of you seem to feel that skinny kids (like I was) aren’t getting discrimated against, aren’t having their feelings hurt, and aren’t coming home from school crying just as hard as the overweight kids who got teased. Just because there are more overweight kids getting teased than there are skinny kids getting teased, doesn’t make it any less shitty.

If you all really wanted to get something done for body acceptance and body positivity, you would want to make allies out of the people who were teased horribly in school for being skinny.

I’m overweight now. Not very overweight. Not to the point where I’m getting dirty looks, or comments for it, but I’ve noticed not getting hit on anywhere near as often as when I was skinny.

I can see it from both sides. I see it from the skinny and teased perspective and from the overweight and ignored perspective.