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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2008/04/29/what-am-i-missing/comment-page-1/#comment-10909</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 21:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI folks, Sue Ann Jaffarian addressed one reader&#039;s concerns with how she was presented in this article in a blog entry &lt;a href=&quot;http://sueannjaffarian.blogspot.com/2008/05/letter-to-katnannie2.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  It appears as if she was misquoted, which may explain some of the confusing remarks.  You can read her full remarks and position on her blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI folks, Sue Ann Jaffarian addressed one reader&#8217;s concerns with how she was presented in this article in a blog entry <a href="http://sueannjaffarian.blogspot.com/2008/05/letter-to-katnannie2.html" rel="nofollow">>here</a>.  It appears as if she was misquoted, which may explain some of the confusing remarks.  You can read her full remarks and position on her blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2008/04/29/what-am-i-missing/comment-page-1/#comment-10908</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 02:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes perfect sense to me. They&#039;re reporting from the perspective of the thin elite. They don&#039;t want to loose their thin privleage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes perfect sense to me. They&#8217;re reporting from the perspective of the thin elite. They don&#8217;t want to loose their thin privleage.</p>
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		<title>By: littlem</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2008/04/29/what-am-i-missing/comment-page-1/#comment-10934</link>
		<dc:creator>littlem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 19:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;How is prejudice being less publicly acceptable a “downside”? &quot;

&quot;And what am I missing here?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think the answer to both is that it makes it harder to prove.

If you KNOW you have a cause of action, but as an injured party you have to rise to a certain evidentiary standard in order to convince a judge and jury of the same,
1) it&#039;s probably going to cost you more money;
2) it&#039;s probably going to cause you more stress;
3) as with everything, just because you have justice on your side and you sue, that doesn&#039;t mean you&#039;re going to win.  That&#039;s yet more stress -- as a a result of the lost time and energy in pursuit of justice that you didn&#039;t get, in addition to the stress from the other party&#039;s/organization&#039;s actions that caused you to sue in the first place.

In addition, you&#039;ve got that constant low-level stress from being under constant scrutiny because you&#039;re never sure that you&#039;re not being accepted/not being denied the money/the job/the whatever &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; because you really can&#039;t do /perform whatever the other party is asking you to do, but because they just don&#039;t like the way you look -- and are in a position to influence your life  and withhold whatever it is you need, as a result.

No thanks.  If I get to have a preference, I like my prejudice right out front in my face where I can see it.

It&#039;s like the difference between staring down the barrel of a P-9 and knowing that there are landmines &lt;i&gt;somewhere&lt;/i&gt; in the field where you&#039;re about to step, and have to step, because there&#039;s no other way to get where you&#039;re going, but you&#039;re not sure where those landmines are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>&#8220;How is prejudice being less publicly acceptable a “downside”? &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;And what am I missing here?&#8221;</i></p></blockquote>
<p>I think the answer to both is that it makes it harder to prove.</p>
<p>If you KNOW you have a cause of action, but as an injured party you have to rise to a certain evidentiary standard in order to convince a judge and jury of the same,<br />
1) it&#8217;s probably going to cost you more money;<br />
2) it&#8217;s probably going to cause you more stress;<br />
3) as with everything, just because you have justice on your side and you sue, that doesn&#8217;t mean you&#8217;re going to win.  That&#8217;s yet more stress &#8212; as a a result of the lost time and energy in pursuit of justice that you didn&#8217;t get, in addition to the stress from the other party&#8217;s/organization&#8217;s actions that caused you to sue in the first place.</p>
<p>In addition, you&#8217;ve got that constant low-level stress from being under constant scrutiny because you&#8217;re never sure that you&#8217;re not being accepted/not being denied the money/the job/the whatever <i>not</i> because you really can&#8217;t do /perform whatever the other party is asking you to do, but because they just don&#8217;t like the way you look &#8212; and are in a position to influence your life  and withhold whatever it is you need, as a result.</p>
<p>No thanks.  If I get to have a preference, I like my prejudice right out front in my face where I can see it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like the difference between staring down the barrel of a P-9 and knowing that there are landmines <i>somewhere</i> in the field where you&#8217;re about to step, and have to step, because there&#8217;s no other way to get where you&#8217;re going, but you&#8217;re not sure where those landmines are.</p>
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		<title>By: anna</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2008/04/29/what-am-i-missing/comment-page-1/#comment-10922</link>
		<dc:creator>anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 04:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree...  any kind of prejudice or bias is a poison to society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree&#8230;  any kind of prejudice or bias is a poison to society.</p>
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		<title>By: mo pie</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2008/04/29/what-am-i-missing/comment-page-1/#comment-10933</link>
		<dc:creator>mo pie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 00:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Rachel, I can&#039;t believe I didn&#039;t notice that. Thanks for pointing it out by proxy.  Amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Rachel, I can&#8217;t believe I didn&#8217;t notice that. Thanks for pointing it out by proxy.  Amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2008/04/29/what-am-i-missing/comment-page-1/#comment-10932</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 00:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, Liza.  I think it&#039;s not a clear cut issue.  Some people might look at me and say I am not a true fat rights activist because I have maintained a weight loss of more than 100 pounds for five years.  I think it depends on your motivations more so than the act itself.

Anna Kirkland, the awesome professor quoted in the article, just highlighted something via our Fat Studies group that I missed when I skimmed the article.  Of the 8 people quoted, 7 are male and one female.  Of the 8, only one person - the female - is identified by her body weight (in this case, as not overweight).

I find that a little disturbing that newspapers are still writing and thinking in this kind of gendered manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Liza.  I think it&#8217;s not a clear cut issue.  Some people might look at me and say I am not a true fat rights activist because I have maintained a weight loss of more than 100 pounds for five years.  I think it depends on your motivations more so than the act itself.</p>
<p>Anna Kirkland, the awesome professor quoted in the article, just highlighted something via our Fat Studies group that I missed when I skimmed the article.  Of the 8 people quoted, 7 are male and one female.  Of the 8, only one person &#8211; the female &#8211; is identified by her body weight (in this case, as not overweight).</p>
<p>I find that a little disturbing that newspapers are still writing and thinking in this kind of gendered manner.</p>
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		<title>By: Liza</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2008/04/29/what-am-i-missing/comment-page-1/#comment-10921</link>
		<dc:creator>Liza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Well, she blogged just a few months ago she started on a weight loss diet after being pro-FA all these years, so *something* must be going on.&quot;

Losing weight isn&#039;t an indicator of self worth problems.  As a size activist who it losing weight, I find that assumption offensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Well, she blogged just a few months ago she started on a weight loss diet after being pro-FA all these years, so *something* must be going on.&#8221;</p>
<p>Losing weight isn&#8217;t an indicator of self worth problems.  As a size activist who it losing weight, I find that assumption offensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Liza</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2008/04/29/what-am-i-missing/comment-page-1/#comment-10920</link>
		<dc:creator>Liza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While anti-discrimination laws are certainly a good idea, there&#039;s a whole lot more that needs to be dealt with, such as society&#039;s views and stereotypes.

I mean, anti-gay-discrimination laws didn&#039;t stop my friend&#039;s crazy right-wing brother from telling him he&#039;d never see his niece and nephews again if he brought his boyfriend home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While anti-discrimination laws are certainly a good idea, there&#8217;s a whole lot more that needs to be dealt with, such as society&#8217;s views and stereotypes.</p>
<p>I mean, anti-gay-discrimination laws didn&#8217;t stop my friend&#8217;s crazy right-wing brother from telling him he&#8217;d never see his niece and nephews again if he brought his boyfriend home.</p>
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		<title>By: Lord Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2008/04/29/what-am-i-missing/comment-page-1/#comment-10931</link>
		<dc:creator>Lord Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we pass a law making it illegal to discriminate for a specific thing we are saying that everything we have not specified is fine to discriminate on.  What is needed is a law that makes discrimination on all grounds other than those expressly or implicitly specified illegal.  Therefore, when I apply for a job: appearance, viewpoint, home life, gender ethnicity, culture or political affiliation can not be considered but my attitude, job skills and experience can be used.

Even so no larger person is going to expect a job as a super model or other industry where the prime qualification is your appearance.

To have a law for each possibility will leave more laws than we can count.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we pass a law making it illegal to discriminate for a specific thing we are saying that everything we have not specified is fine to discriminate on.  What is needed is a law that makes discrimination on all grounds other than those expressly or implicitly specified illegal.  Therefore, when I apply for a job: appearance, viewpoint, home life, gender ethnicity, culture or political affiliation can not be considered but my attitude, job skills and experience can be used.</p>
<p>Even so no larger person is going to expect a job as a super model or other industry where the prime qualification is your appearance.</p>
<p>To have a law for each possibility will leave more laws than we can count.</p>
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		<title>By: wriggles</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2008/04/29/what-am-i-missing/comment-page-1/#comment-10919</link>
		<dc:creator>wriggles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People turn to the law when they want justice, if this was a conversation instead of a crusade, this kind of law probably wouldn&#039;t be needed.

We&#039;ve taken for granted how much we expect scientific knowledge to be pursued without fear or &lt;i&gt;favour&lt;/i&gt;, what&#039;s surprising is when it isn&#039;t, or doesn&#039;t appear to be, there doesn&#039;t seem to be a whole lot we can do about it, which doesn&#039;t seem right as it affects us the most.

Whereas in other areas of life we can go to law and have the case argued, properly.
People can be predjudiced if they want, but they will have to account for it, as opposed to the unlucky recepient. It&#039;s about consequences, how much do you want your hate to cost you?

In this case it&#039;s as if the law has become a better cleaner pair of hands than science/medicine, I find that the most unnerving in a way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People turn to the law when they want justice, if this was a conversation instead of a crusade, this kind of law probably wouldn&#8217;t be needed.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve taken for granted how much we expect scientific knowledge to be pursued without fear or <i>favour</i>, what&#8217;s surprising is when it isn&#8217;t, or doesn&#8217;t appear to be, there doesn&#8217;t seem to be a whole lot we can do about it, which doesn&#8217;t seem right as it affects us the most.</p>
<p>Whereas in other areas of life we can go to law and have the case argued, properly.<br />
People can be predjudiced if they want, but they will have to account for it, as opposed to the unlucky recepient. It&#8217;s about consequences, how much do you want your hate to cost you?</p>
<p>In this case it&#8217;s as if the law has become a better cleaner pair of hands than science/medicine, I find that the most unnerving in a way.</p>
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