For a meta trainwreck, feast your eyes on the trouble brewing between Big Fat Deal and My Fat Spouse. It’s in the comments here and on their board here. Apparently Big Fat Blog is talking about it too. Here is what Crash of My Fat Spouse has to say (my comments are in brackets):

What’s worse is these people go off half cocked. Like the studies they cherry pick, they cherry pick quotes. [Here you go, Crash, I’m quoting you at length.] They don’t mention my frequent posts about avoiding negativity in broaching the topic with a loved one. Nor do they recognize the fact that continuously (not just today or in the last few days) that I’ve generally focused on positive reinforcement, praise and working towards a total healthy lifestyle approach. [Positive reinforcement and praise! Well, it totally works on our dog, so…]

No mention of my stance against outdated BMI measures, outdated scale measurements, or the fact that I’ve ALWAYS told people to eat so that they are never hungry.

No mention that I’m very outspoken against the perils of fast food, damaging/insulin wrecking high fructose corn syrup, and against taking magic cure all pills often pushed on people as quick fixes.

They don’t mention that I’ve never advocated that people’s spouses reach six pack abs or look like a fitness model. My approach has almost always been to make gradual changes… [You’re lulling me into complacency here…]

As for my anti-fat acceptence stance… yeah. I dislike and disapprove of ANY one who tells someone to not bother with personal growth and positive change. I think it’s irresponsible and reprehensible.

I’m never going to be for telling people it’s okay not to fight for a better life. I won’t tell people it’s okay to overeat, stay sendentary, and give up hope…

And right there’s where BFD becomes a strawman. Point to me where I’ve ever said don’t bother with personal growth or positive change; that’s obviously ridiculous. Even if you define “positive change,” as he does, as diet and exercise, I would never say don’t bother. I try to eat well and exercise and live healthily and even make changes to my diet, I just happen to also be fat. And because I’m fat, people on that thread assume I don’t do any of those things, that I just sit around all day collecting ad revenue from the gullible hoards who visit my blog, and spending it on pie. (Which is also a totally valid lifestyle choice. Maybe someday.)

And of course, in Crash’s view, fat people are “hopeless” and sedentary and need better lives. Oh, the irony! Because don’t forget, this all started when he attacked a fat person who wasn’t sedentary, who was hopeful, and who inspired positive change. And yet it wasn’t good enough. It wasn’t the right kind of positive change. (No biscuit! Bad fatty!)

Anyway, there’s a little entertainment for you. In other meta news, Emily (aka chubbygirl27) has come back with a thoughtful comment on the thread about her video:

You expressed concern that anyone on YT can spread an ‘unwise’ message and gain respect, that is true on any democratic platform. I simply voiced my opinion, based on my personal experince as a plus size woman. Pretty or not, it would be false to think that any plus size woman doesn’t feel some sort of stigma or struggle with today’s obsession with being slim. I feel it too, therefore I chose to talk about ideally what I’d prefer: acceptance based on more than just a ‘look’.

My blogs are simple, yes, you have noticed. I have no acting experience, production values, no real direction with them, I simply blog about what feel at the time. So if my simplicity and lack of true direction, my face and exploitation of my boyfriend are offensive to you and non-representative of your life as a plus-size woman, I am sorry that you thought I should be ‘more’ than what I am.

Thanks for coming back to share your thoughts, Emily!

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