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		<title>By: Tara</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2007/08/30/gotta-love-the-bux/comment-page-1/#comment-4657</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops,

That was supposed to say, &quot;any&quot;.</description>
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<p>That was supposed to say, &#8220;any&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2007/08/30/gotta-love-the-bux/comment-page-1/#comment-4656</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>spacedcowgirl,

Couldn&#039;t have said aby of that better.  I once had a soy &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rxmeds4all.com/item/green_tea.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;green tea&lt;/a&gt; latte at a small coffee place by my house, and it couldn&#039;t hold a candle to Starbucks (I&#039;m not dissing them; I go there every day for their coffee and it&#039;s tasty and kicks my ass awake). I have no problem giving SB my business because I heard (correct me if I&#039;m wrong everyone) that aside from their Fair Trade coffees they provide health benefits to their employees. I also enjoy the option of buying really cool cds there.:D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>spacedcowgirl,</p>
<p>Couldn&#8217;t have said aby of that better.  I once had a soy <a href="http://www.rxmeds4all.com/item/green_tea.html" rel="nofollow">green tea</a> latte at a small coffee place by my house, and it couldn&#8217;t hold a candle to Starbucks (I&#8217;m not dissing them; I go there every day for their coffee and it&#8217;s tasty and kicks my ass awake). I have no problem giving SB my business because I heard (correct me if I&#8217;m wrong everyone) that aside from their Fair Trade coffees they provide health benefits to their employees. I also enjoy the option of buying really cool cds there.:D</p>
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		<title>By: spacedcowgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>spacedcowgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Starbucks treats its employees well and does offer fair-trade coffees. Granted there is always room for improvement, but I don&#039;t feel that they are by any means the biggest corporate evil in the world today. In fact, I think they&#039;re a generally responsible company and I have no problem at all with going there. Also, the ones I&#039;ve been to will put refills in your non-disposable mug as long as you remove the top for them (presumably so they aren&#039;t getting their germs on it, or getting your germs on their hands). YMMV, I&#039;m sure, though.

Also, I don&#039;t live in a part of the country where a local independent coffeehouse is really part of the landscape. We have diners, sure, and certainly I love a good cup of diner coffee, but it&#039;s not always what I&#039;m looking for. The &quot;little guy&quot; coffee shops that do exist are generally businesses that sprang up to ride the &quot;coffee wave&quot; in the wake of the Starbucks craze and make crappy, half-assed, stale coffee with a bad aftertaste but still charge 3 bucks for a latte. Besides, again, I LIKE Starbucks&#039; espresso drinks. And their brewed coffee is often strong and bitter, but the mellower blends of their brewed coffee are still much more to my taste than the thin, acidy brews that our &quot;local chains&quot; make. I really think this is a matter of personal taste moreso than the quality of Starbucks somehow being objectively lower than any given independent shop. I&#039;m sure if you live in the Northwest or something, you probably feel differently, and I hope to get out there myself someday and caffeinate my way through Seattle and Portland in the name of &quot;researching&quot; where to find the best coffee. :)

(OK, I&#039;m lying when I say there are NO good independent coffee shops around... there was one that I absolutely LOVED near my old workplace--though as a shit-stirrer I must point out that I really didn&#039;t like their actual coffee any better than Starbucks&#039;--but I am rarely anywhere the town that it&#039;s in anymore so I really can&#039;t go there these days.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Starbucks treats its employees well and does offer fair-trade coffees. Granted there is always room for improvement, but I don&#8217;t feel that they are by any means the biggest corporate evil in the world today. In fact, I think they&#8217;re a generally responsible company and I have no problem at all with going there. Also, the ones I&#8217;ve been to will put refills in your non-disposable mug as long as you remove the top for them (presumably so they aren&#8217;t getting their germs on it, or getting your germs on their hands). YMMV, I&#8217;m sure, though.</p>
<p>Also, I don&#8217;t live in a part of the country where a local independent coffeehouse is really part of the landscape. We have diners, sure, and certainly I love a good cup of diner coffee, but it&#8217;s not always what I&#8217;m looking for. The &#8220;little guy&#8221; coffee shops that do exist are generally businesses that sprang up to ride the &#8220;coffee wave&#8221; in the wake of the Starbucks craze and make crappy, half-assed, stale coffee with a bad aftertaste but still charge 3 bucks for a latte. Besides, again, I LIKE Starbucks&#8217; espresso drinks. And their brewed coffee is often strong and bitter, but the mellower blends of their brewed coffee are still much more to my taste than the thin, acidy brews that our &#8220;local chains&#8221; make. I really think this is a matter of personal taste moreso than the quality of Starbucks somehow being objectively lower than any given independent shop. I&#8217;m sure if you live in the Northwest or something, you probably feel differently, and I hope to get out there myself someday and caffeinate my way through Seattle and Portland in the name of &#8220;researching&#8221; where to find the best coffee. :)</p>
<p>(OK, I&#8217;m lying when I say there are NO good independent coffee shops around&#8230; there was one that I absolutely LOVED near my old workplace&#8211;though as a shit-stirrer I must point out that I really didn&#8217;t like their actual coffee any better than Starbucks&#8217;&#8211;but I am rarely anywhere the town that it&#8217;s in anymore so I really can&#8217;t go there these days.)</p>
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		<title>By: K</title>
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		<dc:creator>K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot bear the taste of whole milk (urgh, creamy) but that&#039;s just a personal thing... but so is liking whole milk better, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot bear the taste of whole milk (urgh, creamy) but that&#8217;s just a personal thing&#8230; but so is liking whole milk better, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another non-Starbucker weighing in...I like elaborate coffees, but no matter what they&#039;re made with, I think they fall into the category of the twice-monthly treat, not the daily food group (the caffeine!  the sugar or sugar substitute, neither of which is really our friend!  the waste paper! and, for heaven&#039;s sake, the COST!)

But if we&#039;re going to do elaborate coffees, I&#039;m with those who advocate finding an independent shop (preferably one that will let us use refillable mugs and uses fair trade coffees.)  What I hold against Starbucks is less its middling-quality coffee than that it has largely &lt;i&gt;created&lt;/i&gt; a luxury demand where only a moderate one was before, in the same way that DeBeers has convinced the world that the diamond=love.  As with the readily-available and yet politically fraught diamond (slave labor, anyone?), Starbucks has built its demand largely by appealing to our basic snobbiness:  terra-cotta tiles, logo mugs and gadgets (made in China), soft lighting, and a vocabulary of &quot;baristas&quot;, &quot;ventis&quot; &quot;mistos&quot; and so on.  (On the rare occasion when I find myself in one, I&#039;m that annoying person demanding &quot;medium&quot; at the top of her lungs.)  Like diamonds, coffee is not a particularly harmless indulgence unless it is fair-trade and shade-grown:  people cut rainforests, the lungs of the world, to plant coffee, and contribute to the ongoing extinction of multiple species.   And while I can&#039;t swear this is true of Starbucks, my local chain coffeshop won&#039;t put their mocha into my refillable mug unless it&#039;s &lt;i&gt;their&lt;/i&gt; mug, claiming sanitation issues which somehow their mugs are spared.  Riiiiiight.

So, I futilely urge us all:  let&#039;s not let the skim milk cloud our judgment.  Starbuck&#039;s is not about what&#039;s good for us or what we really want, and they don&#039;t really deserve our daily patronage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another non-Starbucker weighing in&#8230;I like elaborate coffees, but no matter what they&#8217;re made with, I think they fall into the category of the twice-monthly treat, not the daily food group (the caffeine!  the sugar or sugar substitute, neither of which is really our friend!  the waste paper! and, for heaven&#8217;s sake, the COST!)</p>
<p>But if we&#8217;re going to do elaborate coffees, I&#8217;m with those who advocate finding an independent shop (preferably one that will let us use refillable mugs and uses fair trade coffees.)  What I hold against Starbucks is less its middling-quality coffee than that it has largely <i>created</i> a luxury demand where only a moderate one was before, in the same way that DeBeers has convinced the world that the diamond=love.  As with the readily-available and yet politically fraught diamond (slave labor, anyone?), Starbucks has built its demand largely by appealing to our basic snobbiness:  terra-cotta tiles, logo mugs and gadgets (made in China), soft lighting, and a vocabulary of &#8220;baristas&#8221;, &#8220;ventis&#8221; &#8220;mistos&#8221; and so on.  (On the rare occasion when I find myself in one, I&#8217;m that annoying person demanding &#8220;medium&#8221; at the top of her lungs.)  Like diamonds, coffee is not a particularly harmless indulgence unless it is fair-trade and shade-grown:  people cut rainforests, the lungs of the world, to plant coffee, and contribute to the ongoing extinction of multiple species.   And while I can&#8217;t swear this is true of Starbucks, my local chain coffeshop won&#8217;t put their mocha into my refillable mug unless it&#8217;s <i>their</i> mug, claiming sanitation issues which somehow their mugs are spared.  Riiiiiight.</p>
<p>So, I futilely urge us all:  let&#8217;s not let the skim milk cloud our judgment.  Starbuck&#8217;s is not about what&#8217;s good for us or what we really want, and they don&#8217;t really deserve our daily patronage.</p>
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		<title>By: Nomie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nomie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was raised drinking skim milk, and whole milk makes me gag. Just a different perspective. (I don&#039;t know why a calf came into the discussion - it&#039;s like saying we shouldn&#039;t eat chocolate because it kills dogs.)

Fun fact: according to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.coffeegeek.com/guides/frothingguide/milk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Coffee Geek&lt;/a&gt; and other sites, a lower fat content actually makes for better foaming capability of your milk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was raised drinking skim milk, and whole milk makes me gag. Just a different perspective. (I don&#8217;t know why a calf came into the discussion &#8211; it&#8217;s like saying we shouldn&#8217;t eat chocolate because it kills dogs.)</p>
<p>Fun fact: according to <a href="http://www.coffeegeek.com/guides/frothingguide/milk" rel="nofollow">Coffee Geek</a> and other sites, a lower fat content actually makes for better foaming capability of your milk.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, on the pastry front, they still have em but they&#039;ve also introduced a whole lot of stuff under 500 calories.  Which I think is pretty damned cool.  I don&#039;t do milk as it tears me up but I&#039;m wary of processing anything, including milk.  the more we process stuff the more it seems to hurt our bodies.  God I sound like a raging hippie.. oh yeah, I am ;)  Anyway, keep up the good posts ;D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, on the pastry front, they still have em but they&#8217;ve also introduced a whole lot of stuff under 500 calories.  Which I think is pretty damned cool.  I don&#8217;t do milk as it tears me up but I&#8217;m wary of processing anything, including milk.  the more we process stuff the more it seems to hurt our bodies.  God I sound like a raging hippie.. oh yeah, I am ;)  Anyway, keep up the good posts ;D</p>
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		<title>By: pearlandopal</title>
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		<dc:creator>pearlandopal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, now I feel dumb - I thought whole milk was way, way worse than 2%. Knowing now that it&#039;s only a 2% difference, why is there such hysteria over whole milk being so horrible compared to 2%?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, now I feel dumb &#8211; I thought whole milk was way, way worse than 2%. Knowing now that it&#8217;s only a 2% difference, why is there such hysteria over whole milk being so horrible compared to 2%?</p>
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		<title>By: rei</title>
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		<dc:creator>rei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 08:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a big fan of Starbucks. It&#039;s nice for when you&#039;re out in the sticks, but  I prefer the smaller coffee shops. They tend to have better food and better baristas.
 Then again, Seattle is just an hour south of where I live, so I&#039;m spoiled.
  That being said....and I think skim milk is gross in coffee and only ever use whole milk or cream...but I think I have a mocha/latte/macchiatto(sp?) once a week.

What gets me is that the calories in the milk aren&#039;t as big a problem as the sugar that they put in.  Most of the drinks are always way way too sweet for me...
Then again, I drink doppios.  (two undilluted shots of espresso. I call it rocket fuel) or a shot in the dark. (Shot of espresso in a regular cup of joe) most of the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a big fan of Starbucks. It&#8217;s nice for when you&#8217;re out in the sticks, but  I prefer the smaller coffee shops. They tend to have better food and better baristas.<br />
 Then again, Seattle is just an hour south of where I live, so I&#8217;m spoiled.<br />
  That being said&#8230;.and I think skim milk is gross in coffee and only ever use whole milk or cream&#8230;but I think I have a mocha/latte/macchiatto(sp?) once a week.</p>
<p>What gets me is that the calories in the milk aren&#8217;t as big a problem as the sugar that they put in.  Most of the drinks are always way way too sweet for me&#8230;<br />
Then again, I drink doppios.  (two undilluted shots of espresso. I call it rocket fuel) or a shot in the dark. (Shot of espresso in a regular cup of joe) most of the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Bronwen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bronwen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 03:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m another full-fat milk girl, and hey, I go nuts and demand the whipped cream on my whole milk iced venti mocha.  Bring the fat, I say!

Their baked goods are too sweet, although, I do like their prepackaged shortbread cookies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m another full-fat milk girl, and hey, I go nuts and demand the whipped cream on my whole milk iced venti mocha.  Bring the fat, I say!</p>
<p>Their baked goods are too sweet, although, I do like their prepackaged shortbread cookies.</p>
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