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	<title>Comments on: At Least We Can All Agree Dane Cook Sucks, Right?</title>
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		<title>By: ho_cho</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2007/07/25/at-least-we-can-all-agree-dane-cook-sucks-right/comment-page-2/#comment-3643</link>
		<dc:creator>ho_cho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 20:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont think you can say Dane Cook is blameless for this movie. the other people who made this movie possible would not have been able to do so without  a person like Dane Cook to not only legitimize what is happening in this movie and to affirm what society is trying to make us believe is true. what i am trying to say is gender norms and size acceptance are closely connected and a movie like this is evidence of that.

Now the question of whether Dane Cook is starring in this movie because its what people want, or people want it because that what media is shoving down their throat is another matter...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont think you can say Dane Cook is blameless for this movie. the other people who made this movie possible would not have been able to do so without  a person like Dane Cook to not only legitimize what is happening in this movie and to affirm what society is trying to make us believe is true. what i am trying to say is gender norms and size acceptance are closely connected and a movie like this is evidence of that.</p>
<p>Now the question of whether Dane Cook is starring in this movie because its what people want, or people want it because that what media is shoving down their throat is another matter&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MizShrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>MizShrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 19:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, I don&#039;t care if it&#039;s a vehicle for Dane Cook or not -- until just now, when I looked him up on the imdb site, I wouldn&#039;t have known who he was if I bumped into him on the street.

I still think the movie sounds boring, lazy, and offensive, and personally, I plunk the blame on the producers and writers. That said, I don&#039;t think a comedian would stand behind a script he really thought was horrible, since that would affect his future career. So while the other stars may just be collecting a paycheck, I tend to think the headliners (Cook AND Alba) do hold some responsibility for their choice of films, and we can make judgements of their relative intelligence/integrity based on this. It&#039;s not like either of these stars are &quot;starving artists&quot; desperate for work.

Eddie Murphy, I&#039;m looking at you, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I don&#8217;t care if it&#8217;s a vehicle for Dane Cook or not &#8212; until just now, when I looked him up on the imdb site, I wouldn&#8217;t have known who he was if I bumped into him on the street.</p>
<p>I still think the movie sounds boring, lazy, and offensive, and personally, I plunk the blame on the producers and writers. That said, I don&#8217;t think a comedian would stand behind a script he really thought was horrible, since that would affect his future career. So while the other stars may just be collecting a paycheck, I tend to think the headliners (Cook AND Alba) do hold some responsibility for their choice of films, and we can make judgements of their relative intelligence/integrity based on this. It&#8217;s not like either of these stars are &#8220;starving artists&#8221; desperate for work.</p>
<p>Eddie Murphy, I&#8217;m looking at you, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait!

He was in another movie with Kevin Costner. It was called Mr. Brooks. Strike my previous point about him only getting silly comedy movie roles! My bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait!</p>
<p>He was in another movie with Kevin Costner. It was called Mr. Brooks. Strike my previous point about him only getting silly comedy movie roles! My bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tomato....well you know the rest.
Is it Dane Cook&#039;s fault that the script was written with him in mind? I&#039;m confused. I will stand by my point of him doing what he was paid to do. These are the only kinds of film roles (silly comedies) he can get at the moment. Not defending him, just a theory.  I don&#039;t know much about that other stuff about him being unoriginal (since I don&#039;t follow his career or anything), because I&#039;m not that big a fan of his.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tomato&#8230;.well you know the rest.<br />
Is it Dane Cook&#8217;s fault that the script was written with him in mind? I&#8217;m confused. I will stand by my point of him doing what he was paid to do. These are the only kinds of film roles (silly comedies) he can get at the moment. Not defending him, just a theory.  I don&#8217;t know much about that other stuff about him being unoriginal (since I don&#8217;t follow his career or anything), because I&#8217;m not that big a fan of his.</p>
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		<title>By: v'ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>v'ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, totally being out of the loop on this whole &quot;Dane Cook Phenomonon&quot; (still can&#039;t spell that word for shit),  I took the liberty of looking him up on Wikipedia, and learned that actually, he is pretty huge. HE has his own HBO series and all (I don&#039;t have HBO, I have Showtime instead) and has quite a career. While no Johnny Depp (on oh so many levels...), he DOES have the power to say &quot;No, this movie/plot sucks and I&#039;m not doing it&quot; without facing career retailatation.

Hopeful, though, is the existence and popularity of http://www.danecooksucks.com and that the thrust of his suckdom apparently is that he is quite unoriginal, and has been accused of what amounts to plagurism (I&#039;m a spelling brontosaurus this morning, eh?), while he is known to be fairly litigious (OK, I should install a spell check) when anybody references his material.

So I stand under the title of this thread: Dane Cook sucks. He didn&#039;t just &quot;act&quot; in this movie, it was written with him in mind and he embraced it. Oh, and I saw the poster for it, and I&#039;m sure Leibovitz, Ono, and Lennon are respecively throwing up, screeching in pain, and spinning in grave over it. Then again, from the buzz I hear, it&#039;s not like Cook could have come up with anything artistically striking on his own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, totally being out of the loop on this whole &#8220;Dane Cook Phenomonon&#8221; (still can&#8217;t spell that word for shit),  I took the liberty of looking him up on Wikipedia, and learned that actually, he is pretty huge. HE has his own HBO series and all (I don&#8217;t have HBO, I have Showtime instead) and has quite a career. While no Johnny Depp (on oh so many levels&#8230;), he DOES have the power to say &#8220;No, this movie/plot sucks and I&#8217;m not doing it&#8221; without facing career retailatation.</p>
<p>Hopeful, though, is the existence and popularity of <a href="http://www.danecooksucks.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.danecooksucks.com</a> and that the thrust of his suckdom apparently is that he is quite unoriginal, and has been accused of what amounts to plagurism (I&#8217;m a spelling brontosaurus this morning, eh?), while he is known to be fairly litigious (OK, I should install a spell check) when anybody references his material.</p>
<p>So I stand under the title of this thread: Dane Cook sucks. He didn&#8217;t just &#8220;act&#8221; in this movie, it was written with him in mind and he embraced it. Oh, and I saw the poster for it, and I&#8217;m sure Leibovitz, Ono, and Lennon are respecively throwing up, screeching in pain, and spinning in grave over it. Then again, from the buzz I hear, it&#8217;s not like Cook could have come up with anything artistically striking on his own.</p>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with Ally&#039;s comment. Don&#039;t hate the player, hate the game. Yes, this is a vehicle for Dane Cook. However, he just acted in the film. This film was a job for him. He did what he was paid to do. The only time I would blame him for this is if he were somebody like Johnny Depp who is now royalty in the acting world and can clearly pick and choose through the scripts sent his way. I don&#039;t think Dane Cook has that level of success quite yet. As a matter of fact I believe the last movie he did was Employee of the Month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Ally&#8217;s comment. Don&#8217;t hate the player, hate the game. Yes, this is a vehicle for Dane Cook. However, he just acted in the film. This film was a job for him. He did what he was paid to do. The only time I would blame him for this is if he were somebody like Johnny Depp who is now royalty in the acting world and can clearly pick and choose through the scripts sent his way. I don&#8217;t think Dane Cook has that level of success quite yet. As a matter of fact I believe the last movie he did was Employee of the Month.</p>
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		<title>By: G.G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Backlash? Is there a Fat Mafia I don&#039;t know about?  (Just wonderin&#039;:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Backlash? Is there a Fat Mafia I don&#8217;t know about?  (Just wonderin&#8217;:-)</p>
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		<title>By: ho_cho</title>
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		<dc:creator>ho_cho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 05:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is easy and fun to blame Dane Cook, because this movie is just a vehicle for him, he gets the glory and fame and yet lacks any talent and personality. While  Alba is the object of the &quot;male gaze&quot; he reflects the males in the audience and what they should be thinking. There is a reason women are not the main  characters of movies like this - because the idea of a conflict experienced by a woman that all people can relate to is ludicrous. If the stereotypical female in a movie is thin and generic, with just enough quirks to ward off the yawns for 80 minutes, then he is the male side of the coin: unquestioning, brutish and undeserving of his success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is easy and fun to blame Dane Cook, because this movie is just a vehicle for him, he gets the glory and fame and yet lacks any talent and personality. While  Alba is the object of the &#8220;male gaze&#8221; he reflects the males in the audience and what they should be thinking. There is a reason women are not the main  characters of movies like this &#8211; because the idea of a conflict experienced by a woman that all people can relate to is ludicrous. If the stereotypical female in a movie is thin and generic, with just enough quirks to ward off the yawns for 80 minutes, then he is the male side of the coin: unquestioning, brutish and undeserving of his success.</p>
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		<title>By: Ally</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 02:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I love most is that all the blame is placed on Dane Cook, and not the various writers, producers, and other stars of the film. Kudos for thinking of the obsese population, but a big SU-FI to those who purely blame the discriminatory parts on ONE PERSON in the whole entire film.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I love most is that all the blame is placed on Dane Cook, and not the various writers, producers, and other stars of the film. Kudos for thinking of the obsese population, but a big SU-FI to those who purely blame the discriminatory parts on ONE PERSON in the whole entire film.</p>
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		<title>By: ho_cho</title>
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		<dc:creator>ho_cho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 21:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Tara on the battle-picking point and also on the fact that there she, and everyone, has the right to go see whatever movie we want without fearing backlash from those urging us to boycott it.

I for one, will not go see this movie, and to be honest I dont need a further reason than Dane Cook is in it. The trailer upset me and I think only the most childish sense of humor would find that whole concept, much less the fat jokes, utterly hilarious. I think it is interesting that Tara and someone else said they dont feel upset by this image because they dont behave that way. That implies either that there is some belief out there that there are people who behave that way or that the fact that its an exagerration makes it compeltely innocuous, neither one of which rings true. Once again, the media is telling people that women&#039;s value is defined by their outward appearance and deviation from those norms gives others the right to laugh at you, ostracize and marginalize you. It&#039;s not the fact that this particular woman is fat and therefore isnt going to lead the happy life of a thin woman, its that she represents the kind of women who do not subsribe to society&#039;s ideals, whatever they may be and to whatever degree, and therefore is allowing herself to be the subject of ridicule and if shes not happy, she has no one but herself to blame.

Now I kind of want to see it so I can get even more angry. Grrrr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Tara on the battle-picking point and also on the fact that there she, and everyone, has the right to go see whatever movie we want without fearing backlash from those urging us to boycott it.</p>
<p>I for one, will not go see this movie, and to be honest I dont need a further reason than Dane Cook is in it. The trailer upset me and I think only the most childish sense of humor would find that whole concept, much less the fat jokes, utterly hilarious. I think it is interesting that Tara and someone else said they dont feel upset by this image because they dont behave that way. That implies either that there is some belief out there that there are people who behave that way or that the fact that its an exagerration makes it compeltely innocuous, neither one of which rings true. Once again, the media is telling people that women&#8217;s value is defined by their outward appearance and deviation from those norms gives others the right to laugh at you, ostracize and marginalize you. It&#8217;s not the fact that this particular woman is fat and therefore isnt going to lead the happy life of a thin woman, its that she represents the kind of women who do not subsribe to society&#8217;s ideals, whatever they may be and to whatever degree, and therefore is allowing herself to be the subject of ridicule and if shes not happy, she has no one but herself to blame.</p>
<p>Now I kind of want to see it so I can get even more angry. Grrrr.</p>
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