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	<title>Comments on: Mandy Moore: Chubby Or Hot?</title>
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	<description>We&#039;re bringing chubby back.</description>
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		<title>By: JoJo</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2007/06/28/mandy-moore-chubby-or-hot/comment-page-1/#comment-3157</link>
		<dc:creator>JoJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think she looks chubby in those photos.  Sorry, I do.  What, would you rather me lie and say that&#039;s not what I think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think she looks chubby in those photos.  Sorry, I do.  What, would you rather me lie and say that&#8217;s not what I think?</p>
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		<title>By: Chubby</title>
		<link>http://www.bfdblog.com/2007/06/28/mandy-moore-chubby-or-hot/comment-page-1/#comment-3156</link>
		<dc:creator>Chubby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 03:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WoW...I was a little stunned when I viewed my trackbacks and discovered site was not being reviewed in a good light.

My tagline is actually &quot;because infancy is the only time in life when chubby is cute!&quot; This is actually meant to be taken with a bit of sarcasm.

We are a group of folks who need to get healthy. We need to shed some weight, learn healthier eating habits and exercise regularly. Nothing extreme or outrageous. No starvation. Just moderation and doing things the old fashioned way.

We are NOT about becoming society&#039;s definition of &#039;skinny&#039;...although we joke about it. We only care about being at a weight that we can be healthy and comfortably maintain and set good examples for our families.

Feel free to stop by anytime.

Oh...by the way...I&#039;d kill to be as &quot;chubby&quot; as Mandy Moore. She is so dang cute. The full cheeks is the only reason people EVER try to label her as chubby. She has a lovely figure and it&#039;s a shame that it&#039;s not more of the &quot;norm&quot; in Hollywood. Stupid Follywood!

All the best,

Chubby</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WoW&#8230;I was a little stunned when I viewed my trackbacks and discovered site was not being reviewed in a good light.</p>
<p>My tagline is actually &#8220;because infancy is the only time in life when chubby is cute!&#8221; This is actually meant to be taken with a bit of sarcasm.</p>
<p>We are a group of folks who need to get healthy. We need to shed some weight, learn healthier eating habits and exercise regularly. Nothing extreme or outrageous. No starvation. Just moderation and doing things the old fashioned way.</p>
<p>We are NOT about becoming society&#8217;s definition of &#8217;skinny&#8217;&#8230;although we joke about it. We only care about being at a weight that we can be healthy and comfortably maintain and set good examples for our families.</p>
<p>Feel free to stop by anytime.</p>
<p>Oh&#8230;by the way&#8230;I&#8217;d kill to be as &#8220;chubby&#8221; as Mandy Moore. She is so dang cute. The full cheeks is the only reason people EVER try to label her as chubby. She has a lovely figure and it&#8217;s a shame that it&#8217;s not more of the &#8220;norm&#8221; in Hollywood. Stupid Follywood!</p>
<p>All the best,</p>
<p>Chubby</p>
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		<title>By: spacedcowgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>spacedcowgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 15:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno, Melanie, I think there are various reasons for the phenomenon you mentioned:

1) People not examining their own beliefs and prejudices like you mentioned... it definitely is kind of hypocritical to cheerlead criticism of Posh&#039;s body and not Kelly Clarkson&#039;s, or whatever--we&#039;re still judging women&#039;s bodies in some kind of &quot;hot or not&quot; referendum, which seems counterproductive.

However, there is also:

2) The fact that calling somebody skinny is not as insulting as calling them fat. Honestly and unfortunately, I bet Posh counts every &quot;needs to eat a sandwich&quot; comment as a victory.

3) Posh really appears to be very underweight whereas obviously, the celebrity women who get slammed for being &quot;fat&quot; are generally nowhere near overweight. This is still no reason to judge women&#039;s bodies, but it probably factors in.

I don&#039;t really see how &quot;is Mandy Moore chubby or hot&quot; could have been 100% a joke though. If it was, I guess I don&#039;t really &quot;get&quot; it because it doesn&#039;t seem funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno, Melanie, I think there are various reasons for the phenomenon you mentioned:</p>
<p>1) People not examining their own beliefs and prejudices like you mentioned&#8230; it definitely is kind of hypocritical to cheerlead criticism of Posh&#8217;s body and not Kelly Clarkson&#8217;s, or whatever&#8211;we&#8217;re still judging women&#8217;s bodies in some kind of &#8220;hot or not&#8221; referendum, which seems counterproductive.</p>
<p>However, there is also:</p>
<p>2) The fact that calling somebody skinny is not as insulting as calling them fat. Honestly and unfortunately, I bet Posh counts every &#8220;needs to eat a sandwich&#8221; comment as a victory.</p>
<p>3) Posh really appears to be very underweight whereas obviously, the celebrity women who get slammed for being &#8220;fat&#8221; are generally nowhere near overweight. This is still no reason to judge women&#8217;s bodies, but it probably factors in.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really see how &#8220;is Mandy Moore chubby or hot&#8221; could have been 100% a joke though. If it was, I guess I don&#8217;t really &#8220;get&#8221; it because it doesn&#8217;t seem funny.</p>
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		<title>By: ho_cho</title>
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		<dc:creator>ho_cho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 21:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i find it funny that women are made to feel bad about themselves when people make comments that thin hollywood celebrities are somehow &quot;fat&quot;. When people say something like this, as it was referred to  in the previous post, it is both a sign of existing misogyny and also reflective of the anger people feel about what it means to be beautiful, and a women, and what society places a value on....i mean what could be more hurtful to the career of an actress or entertainer than being deemed fat?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i find it funny that women are made to feel bad about themselves when people make comments that thin hollywood celebrities are somehow &#8220;fat&#8221;. When people say something like this, as it was referred to  in the previous post, it is both a sign of existing misogyny and also reflective of the anger people feel about what it means to be beautiful, and a women, and what society places a value on&#8230;.i mean what could be more hurtful to the career of an actress or entertainer than being deemed fat?</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 01:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lena, who posted that, is someone whose blog I read, and she&#039;s great - very funny and sweet.  I don&#039;t think she meant it how it came out, it was definitely a joke and people jumped all over it.   I commented at MamaPop, too, because why is it that mentioning &quot;chubby&quot; or &quot;fat&quot; brings out everyone&#039;s anger, but if someone posts about Posh needing to eat a cheeseburger, everybody jumps in with &quot;yeah, totally!&quot;.  There is no fighting about that.  I think that people get this agenda about what&#039;s PC and what&#039;s not and there are such huge double standards...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lena, who posted that, is someone whose blog I read, and she&#8217;s great &#8211; very funny and sweet.  I don&#8217;t think she meant it how it came out, it was definitely a joke and people jumped all over it.   I commented at MamaPop, too, because why is it that mentioning &#8220;chubby&#8221; or &#8220;fat&#8221; brings out everyone&#8217;s anger, but if someone posts about Posh needing to eat a cheeseburger, everybody jumps in with &#8220;yeah, totally!&#8221;.  There is no fighting about that.  I think that people get this agenda about what&#8217;s PC and what&#8217;s not and there are such huge double standards&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: spacedcowgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>spacedcowgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agnes, ain&#039;t it always the way? Any message board discussion about women always seems to devolve into really critical comments about their appearance. But if you ever see the contributors, you&#039;re shocked at how they look just like everyone else. I can&#039;t understand how people can compartmentalize their self-images such that they really think it&#039;s reasonable to pick apart some beautiful young celebrity and call her horrible names, yet not apply the same standards to oneself. Or maybe they&#039;re just transferring their own feelings of inadequacy. Whatever, it&#039;s delusional and it sucks. It&#039;s almost sickly fascinating how this happens EVERY TIME a young woman&#039;s weight or skin or style of dress is brought up for discussion.

Ken, I don&#039;t think you meant it this way (what with the &#039;chubby&#039; wording) but I wanted to mention again that the Dove women weren&#039;t actually chubby, they just looked it next to the very thin women we usually see in advertising. Weren&#039;t they all of &quot;normal,&quot; &quot;healthy&quot; weight by BMI (quotes because of course who am I to say what&#039;s actually normal or healthy for anyone)? Which made two of the paths that the discussion took (&quot;Yay for fat ladies in advertising!&quot; and &quot;Boo, I shouldn&#039;t have to look at fat chicks on a billboard!&quot;) sort of beside-the-point and depressing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agnes, ain&#8217;t it always the way? Any message board discussion about women always seems to devolve into really critical comments about their appearance. But if you ever see the contributors, you&#8217;re shocked at how they look just like everyone else. I can&#8217;t understand how people can compartmentalize their self-images such that they really think it&#8217;s reasonable to pick apart some beautiful young celebrity and call her horrible names, yet not apply the same standards to oneself. Or maybe they&#8217;re just transferring their own feelings of inadequacy. Whatever, it&#8217;s delusional and it sucks. It&#8217;s almost sickly fascinating how this happens EVERY TIME a young woman&#8217;s weight or skin or style of dress is brought up for discussion.</p>
<p>Ken, I don&#8217;t think you meant it this way (what with the &#8216;chubby&#8217; wording) but I wanted to mention again that the Dove women weren&#8217;t actually chubby, they just looked it next to the very thin women we usually see in advertising. Weren&#8217;t they all of &#8220;normal,&#8221; &#8220;healthy&#8221; weight by BMI (quotes because of course who am I to say what&#8217;s actually normal or healthy for anyone)? Which made two of the paths that the discussion took (&#8220;Yay for fat ladies in advertising!&#8221; and &#8220;Boo, I shouldn&#8217;t have to look at fat chicks on a billboard!&#8221;) sort of beside-the-point and depressing.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t Mamapop make similar comments about how Kirstie Alley looked in a bikini? Was that a different website?

Ah, here you go:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mopie.com/blog/2006/11/mamastop.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;same blog, same dumb crap&lt;/a&gt;.  Mo is always on the job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t Mamapop make similar comments about how Kirstie Alley looked in a bikini? Was that a different website?</p>
<p>Ah, here you go:  <a href="http://www.mopie.com/blog/2006/11/mamastop.html" rel="nofollow">same blog, same dumb crap</a>.  Mo is always on the job.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Undoubtedly hot. And I&#039;m as big a pig as the typical straight guy, but I have to ask what that guy&#039;s definition of &quot;chubby&quot; is? What the hell.

To the previous point about &quot;Because I Said So&quot; (a movie so horrible it couldn&#039;t be redeemed by Mandy&#039;s hotness), it reminds me of that movie &quot;Sirens&quot; back in the 90s, which featured a nekkid Elle McPhereson. And not just a nekkid McPhereson, but one who&#039;d gained 25 pounds for the role and went from being an attractive but slightly freakish model sort to being a super-smoking hot woman with curves and such.

Just saying.

On another note, one of the few criticisms of the Dove campaign from last year went something like, &quot;Sure, those women are chubby, but Dove didn&#039;t pick &#039;normal&#039; women, they went out and found the hottest &#039;chubby&#039; women they could find.&quot; (Thus proving that the terms hot and chubby are not mutually exclusive)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Undoubtedly hot. And I&#8217;m as big a pig as the typical straight guy, but I have to ask what that guy&#8217;s definition of &#8220;chubby&#8221; is? What the hell.</p>
<p>To the previous point about &#8220;Because I Said So&#8221; (a movie so horrible it couldn&#8217;t be redeemed by Mandy&#8217;s hotness), it reminds me of that movie &#8220;Sirens&#8221; back in the 90s, which featured a nekkid Elle McPhereson. And not just a nekkid McPhereson, but one who&#8217;d gained 25 pounds for the role and went from being an attractive but slightly freakish model sort to being a super-smoking hot woman with curves and such.</p>
<p>Just saying.</p>
<p>On another note, one of the few criticisms of the Dove campaign from last year went something like, &#8220;Sure, those women are chubby, but Dove didn&#8217;t pick &#8216;normal&#8217; women, they went out and found the hottest &#8216;chubby&#8217; women they could find.&#8221; (Thus proving that the terms hot and chubby are not mutually exclusive)</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She looks completely gorgeous in those photos. Whoever thinks she&#039;s chubby is smoking crack. Also, in that second to the last photo, she looks JUST like Jacklyn Smith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She looks completely gorgeous in those photos. Whoever thinks she&#8217;s chubby is smoking crack. Also, in that second to the last photo, she looks JUST like Jacklyn Smith.</p>
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		<title>By: Agnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most pathetic part of that whole post/website is the fact that I know for a fact some of the contributers are &quot;chubby&quot;.  Way to be a hypocritical asswipe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most pathetic part of that whole post/website is the fact that I know for a fact some of the contributers are &#8220;chubby&#8221;.  Way to be a hypocritical asswipe.</p>
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